Dodge just unveiled a couple new 2021 models on Dodge.com
https://www.dodge.com/
The 2021 Hellcat Duranago and the 2021 Challenger Super Stock(807hp)
:thinking: If I trade in my 2012 and get the Super Stock, I will lose the manual transmission. My insurance will surely take a hike too. My wife is going to get in the constant nagging mode. But I get 807 HP. Worth it? My 470 HP SRT is already a handful. Do I need more?
I still love how is this day and age of tree huggers and zero emissions cars, Dodge doesn't give a shit and still brings out high horse power 10 sec family sedans :clapping:
im waiting for the DODGE 'CUDA'
Quote from: anlauto on July 02, 2020, 02:16:38 PM
I still love how is this day and age of tree huggers and zero emissions cars, Dodge doesn't give a shit and still brings out high horse power 10 sec family sedans :clapping:
Exactly! I was just talking to my best friend (Ford guy) about this, he owns a -67 and a -07 Shelby GT500. In the 80-90s we thought the muscle car era was behind us, and then it comes back! Mopar and Ford and fighting with HP again. Amazing...
Lest not forget the mid engine vet. Lol
It's a great time for cars alright. The only bad thing is our E-bodies were top of the heap for decades performance wise, They don't compare to these new cars though.
My truck has 395HP, weighs 5500lbs and knocks down 23MPG, and it's a truck.
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on July 02, 2020, 06:20:30 PM
It's a great time for cars alright. The only bad thing is our E-bodies were top of the heap for decades performance wise, They don't compare to these new cars though.
My truck has 395HP, weighs 5500lbs and knocks down 23MPG, and it's a truck.
I hear ya! I was driving my truck to my cottage last week and happened to look down as we tooted along. Imagine my surprise when I looked at the speedo and it showed about 105kph or about 65 mph and the tach said it was turning about 1600 rpm! Jesus, my Challenger turns about 3000+ at the same speed! :huh:
Too many constant pop ups on that site to ever actually get to view anything :pullinghair:
Pop-ups ? I didn't get any during the video :dunno: It's a good video, everybody should watch it... :twothumbsup:
Quote from: anlauto on July 02, 2020, 02:16:38 PM
I still love how is this day and age of tree huggers and zero emissions cars, Dodge doesn't give a shit and still brings out high horse power 10 sec family sedans :clapping:
I have a different take on this and it may be unpopular on this forum but...I think the reason why gasoline car manufacturers are making these cars right now is because these numbers will be peanuts compared to what electric cars will do in a short time. If they don't make them now they won't be able to sell these high profit cars in the near future. A 1000hp family electric car will be here soon. HP is even easier to make with an electric car.
I don't meant to be doom and gloom but I think these cars are a sign of Detroit realising this is the end of a primarily gasoline performance car era.
I will add in here though that, the last internal combustion engine sold in Canada will go to me lol.
I love the new Durango Hellcat and I have always been a fan of the widebody Challengers. Too bad the Durango Hellcat is a one year only vehicle with a 2000 production limit. Next year it won't meet the EPA emissions for it's platform.
I don't typically watch these videos, but I am glad I watched this one.
Great insight into what the company is about, yes I realize that is the point, but I like it.
The new line up looks cool. Makes me miss my Charger.
Quote from: Cudajason on July 03, 2020, 07:17:36 AM
I don't typically watch these videos, but I am glad I watched this one.
That's why I posted the second link to just the video....I quite enjoyed it...
I too think the end is near for the traditional gas powered musclecars. It was the same feeling when the 70 HemiCuda came out. Manufacturers were going all in because they knew the great cars would be a memory by 1972.
I almost feel bad about liking my wife's Prius. It has a gas engine that charges the batteries and never needs to be plugged in somewhere. Averaging 63 mpg. Handles well and is very responsive. I'm just glad that I'm old enough to have experienced the cars of the late 60s and early 70s. :stayinlane:
I fell like I'm driving a '70 muscle car when I have to fill the tank of my 2018 9.1 MPG Wide body Hellcat. :haha: :crying:
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on July 03, 2020, 07:20:34 AM
I too think the end is near for the traditional gas powered musclecars. It was the same feeling when the 70 HemiCuda came out. Manufacturers were going all in because they knew the great cars would be a memory by 1972.
We can go with alcohol in the future, more power, cheaper gas, no emissions. Just some more fuel consumption, dosen't matter to me...
There is a company here that specialises in building E85 blown V8 engines for muscle cars.
I was in Toronto visiting my brother and decided to use a car sharing service and got a Fusion Hybrid to drive to Niagara Falls and back. Although I didn't care for the interior, nor would I call it fast, I was blown away at how good it was in stop and go downtown traffic. For a here and there errand runner and stuck in traffic car it was great. Cost me next to nothing in gas.
Hybrid technology has come along way and quickly.
Love it! Well done video! Just need to win a lottery now! IMO The Charger is just Meh.... but love the Durango and Challenger!
I enjoyed watching the Dodge preview video. However, it just goes to show you the FCA doesnt give two good shits about the american future of automobiles. FCA only cares about the Chrysler Pacifica mini van, Ram Trucks and Jeep lineup. The Dodge Charger and its brother the Chrysler 300 are both built on a 20 year old Mercedes Benz designed overweight chassis. Nothing new except for more and more HP coming about. Yes, i like HP, but i also like fuel economy!! The Challenger continues to outsell the Camaro and close behind the Mustang. Yes, the HP versions are a big reason, but so is the fact that it is the only one of the 3 that looks very much like the originals, and have a usable back seat. However, it is built on a shortened version of the same overweight chassis from Mercedes. NO NEW DEVELOPMENT. To some extent the NO NEW DEVELOPMENT is a good thing...i.e...if it aint broke dont fix it... Because there is no new engineering and im sure the tooling costs have been paid for years back, so a new SXT even at the full sticker of $28,095 plus $1,000 for shipping so around $29,000 with its list of full equipment V6/8 sp auto/ std dual zone air conditioning and 8 way power seats, etc is a bargain over a 4 cyl Mustang with auto comes in at $29,765 but doesn't have nearly as much standard equipment as the challenger. Or a camaro with its base 4 cyl costs more equipt the same.. Neither have a useable rear seat !!
I almost went to my Dodge Dealers to buy a leftover 2019 Challenger SXT... Heck they were practically giving them away... local dealer had a 2019 Challenger SXT for $21,980... $8,000 off of the list price of $29,980... WOW.... but then looked at an article that listed the Curb weight at 4,057 lbs...(4400 for an RT with the Hemi model) Heck a 2020 Chrysler Pacifica only weighs a little over 4400 lbs. What the?? Then i came to the realization that yes, it is a fantastic looking vehicle...but so is my 74 Challenger, and it weighs about 400 lbs less !! FCA keeps coming out with "new/old" names and more horsepower... But... we cant use that much except on the strip..
Those of you who are anxiously awaiting the release of a Cuda Challenger or a redesign of the Challenger with a new lighter weight chassis.... keep waiting... better chance of meeting the real Santa Claus. Alas, i feel that the end is near for Charger and Challenger and the Dodge and Chrysler nameplates... FCA simply doesn't give a shit !!!
The site kept trying to redirect me to FCA Panama , I counted 6 pop up / redirects , never got to the video & just closed the window !
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on July 03, 2020, 11:39:26 AM
The site kept trying to redirect me to FCA Panama , I counted 6 pop up / redirects , never got to the video & just closed the window !
That's why I posted the video for you....It's worth the watch I think :twothumbsup:
Quote from: anlauto on July 03, 2020, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on July 03, 2020, 11:39:26 AM
The site kept trying to redirect me to FCA Panama , I counted 6 pop up / redirects , never got to the video & just closed the window !
That's why I posted the video for you....It's worth the watch I think :twothumbsup:
Thanks for the vid link.
Site was the same for me with popups to where I pulled out an moved on.