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Title: Selling Dealer
Post by: lvd2340 on May 29, 2017, 07:57:29 AM
Is there any way to find out what dealer sold my 70 Cuda? Would the vehicle order number possibly help?
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: CudaMoparRay on May 29, 2017, 08:10:23 AM
Interesting question, subscribing for the answer
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 29, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533)   There is a way, but it's not super easy.  The window stickers would show what dealership the vehicle was sold from.  The vehicles produced in 1970 were ordered with a VON (Vehicle Order Number) and ordered from a pre-printed form that had consecutive VON's on them (25 or 50 in a row).  So that all those VON's would be used from the same dealership.  So the best way to find out what dealership sold a car is to find window stickers that have very close VON's and then the odds are that other cars with very close VON's came from the same dealership.  Sounds hard, but people like @6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211)  has a good size database and helps us keep track of that stuff. 

As for knowing for sure, right now today, there is not a database from Mopar that has been found.  So unless someone like 6bblgt or Galen has the info there's not much else that can be done. 


And welcome to the site  :welcome:  Very cool Lemon Twist Cuda you have there.  :twothumbsup:
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 01:11:20 PM
AWESOME 'cuda "lemon twist"  :banana: & black w/tan leather!!  :needphotos:
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533) with NO current help from Chrysler Corp. it's a "needle in a haystack" type search, do you feel lucky?

closest VON I have with good info is 065221 (+200) & "scheduled" 3 months later (Feb. 10)
it is another 340'cuda ordered thru:

UNION GARAGE INC.
1130 WEST BROAD ST.
BETHLEHEM, PA
region: 33
dealer: 08837

there would be many Plymouth dealerships in the region, so it should be from that part of the country
one monkey wrench in the theory - PHONE ORDERS - VONs that originated at dealerships would be overwritten if the dealership placed the order with Chrysler over the phone.

the Y33 "fleet sale" has to have some clue buried within but,  :notsure:
looks like it hasn't strayed too far from home - does this info sound like a possibility?
any other available info on your specific car?  stories, rumors?
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 01:34:12 PM
Not trying to hog in on this thread but how about VON # 045183. 70 Barracuda gran coupe, built in LA. if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 29, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533)  if you have not already, feel free to fun your sheet through the decoder.  We're making a few updates to it now, but it should be all working soon.  Let me know if you have any trouble at all and we'll be glad to help.   :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 01:41:26 PM
@JS29 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/js29_195) is it a Y16 "sales bank" car or a Y14 "SOLD car"?

sheet or fender tag pic?
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 01:34:12 PM
Not trying to hog in on this thread but how about VON # 045183. 70 Barracuda gran coupe, built in LA. if you don't mind.

I have ZERO 1970 Plymouth e-bodies with  a "045xxx" VON   :rubeyes:
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
 No build sheet.  :'( I can get A picture of the fender tag. will that help? There is no Y anything on the fender tag.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
Quote from: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
No build sheet.  :'( I can get A picture of the fender tag. will that help? There is no Y anything on the fender tag.

in the big picture, every piece of info helps
- specifically, for your car no "Y" codes doesn't help - LA seemed to be random on Y-codes ending up on the tag - is it an "N95" car?  VONs from "sales bank" cars have nothing to do with the "selling dealer"
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 02:13:58 PM
Negative on the N95 code. the car was out from the state of Washington. Spokane I was told
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: lvd2340 on May 29, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on May 29, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533)  if you have not already, feel free to fun your sheet through the decoder.  We're making a few updates to it now, but it should be all working soon.  Let me know if you have any trouble at all and we'll be glad to help.   :drinkingbud:

I tried it earlier but came up with

Oops — something went wrong. We will take a look and get it fixed shortly.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: lvd2340 on May 29, 2017, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 01:11:20 PM
AWESOME 'cuda "lemon twist"  :banana: & black w/tan leather!!  :needphotos:
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533) with NO current help from Chrysler Corp. it's a "needle in a haystack" type search, do you feel lucky?

closest VON I have with good info is 065221 (+200) & "scheduled" 3 months later (Feb. 10)
it is another 340'cuda ordered thru:

UNION GARAGE INC.
1130 WEST BROAD ST.
BETHLEHEM, PA
region: 33

dealer: 08837

there would be many Plymouth dealerships in the region, so it should be from that part of the country
one monkey wrench in the theory - PHONE ORDERS - VONs that originated at dealerships would be overwritten if the dealership placed the order with Chrysler over the phone.

the Y33 "fleet sale" has to have some clue buried within but,  :notsure:
looks like it hasn't strayed too far from home - does this info sound like a possibility?
any other available info on your specific car?  stories, rumors?

I have a keychain from the car that i think was from the selling dealer but the portion of it with the dealer name disappeared. I'm almost positive that the dealer was from NJ.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 03:07:19 PM
region #33 is Philadelphia PA & probably includes most/all of NJ
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 03:17:33 PM
is there a city on the keychain?
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 29, 2017, 03:17:35 PM
Thank you for letting me know.  I contacted the programmer and he's working on fixing that bug that gave you the "oops" error.  I'll let you know once it's fixed.  Since you posted your sheet I can run it though and email it to you if you like.  Always willing to help a E-Body brother out.   :grouphug:

Quote from: lvd2340 on May 29, 2017, 02:17:30 PM

I tried it earlier but came up with

Oops — something went wrong. We will take a look and get it fixed shortly.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 29, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
@lvd2340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/lvd2340_533)  could you try the decoder again and see if the PDF converter is working for you (I think it should remember your entries if you have cookies turned on).

The decoder did everything right, but the PDF converter had a little bug when it tried to display a long code.  It should be all fixed.  Please let me know if it works for you now?

Thanks buddy!   :bradsthumb:

http://decoder.e-bodies.org/1970-build-sheet/


Quote from: lvd2340 on May 29, 2017, 02:17:30 PM

Oops — something went wrong. We will take a look and get it fixed shortly.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: cudaized on June 18, 2017, 03:21:19 PM
BS23V0E134645  VON: 045108
Roger Mauro Chrysler Plymouth, 7200 West Colfax Avenue, Lakewood, Colorado, 80215


Quote from: 6bblgt on May 29, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: JS29 on May 29, 2017, 01:34:12 PM
Not trying to hog in on this thread but how about VON # 045183. 70 Barracuda gran coupe, built in LA. if you don't mind.

I have ZERO 1970 Plymouth e-bodies with  a "045xxx" VON   :rubeyes:
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: cuda hunter on June 18, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: Sleepychallenger on June 19, 2017, 04:56:59 AM
Who would have thought that a thread about finding out what dealer your car came from could be so entertaining.
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: 303 Mopar on June 19, 2017, 05:26:02 AM
Quote from: cudaized on June 18, 2017, 03:21:19 PM
BS23V0E134645  VON: 045108
Roger Mauro Chrysler Plymouth, 7200 West Colfax Avenue, Lakewood, Colorado, 80215

Roger Mauro was one of the largest dealerships in the Denver metro area.....
Title: Re: Selling Dealer
Post by: MoparDave on June 19, 2017, 05:42:56 AM
 :popcorn:
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