Great video to watch....Leave it to Dodge to come up with this take on the electric car... :twothumbsup:
Good video, gonna be interesting to see what they come up with.
My son and I had recently been discussing the probability that Dodge would hit the electric market hard. Thanks for posting!
Quote from: chargerdon on July 08, 2021, 01:09:43 PM
I guess they never heard of the Mustang EV.. ??
Im sure the Dodge version will be even more powerful than the Ford version.
Isn't the Mustang EV an SUV now ? I would hardly call it a muscle car.
They asked why would Dodge build an EV car? Well on the performance front, they were probably sick and tired of YouTube videos showing Hellcats getting handily beaten by the Tesla Golf Cart Corporation.
But they (EVs) are so uncool. I guess you can set at a stop light and go vroom, vroom, vroom. I heard Tesla is thinking of or maybe has started to build in engine sounds through the radio speakers. What a laugher.
The location for the video is Meadowbrook Hall. I live probably 5 minutes north of Meadowbrook Hall. The original estate was a farm purchased by John Dodge. After John died his widow remarried a lumber baron and built this home. It cost $4million dollars in 1929. It is unbelievable inside and is a great tour if you are ever this way. Back in my Chrysler days we had a Christmas dinner party out there almost every year.
Dodge had to do it to survive, and looks like they are doing it right (at least per the video). But they are behind with the Mustang EV getting a lot of press. NHRA is already creating a class for EV and I'm sure other motor sports will do something.
EV and Gas will live together for many years to come, so hopefully best of both worlds!!
I think Dodge is wise to jump in. I remember when Kodak was scoffing about digital cameras...remember Kodak?
I am going out on a limb on this forum saying that I look forward to seeing what they bring to the game. I have only driven a Tesla model S p90 once. It was practical, comfortable, quiet, and stupid fast!!! My boss has one and says it cost him $9 in electricity for the equivalent mileage in gas costing $50. I'm not getting rid of my stroker big block any time soon, but for a daily driver, an electrified Challenger might just be the ticket. Let's see if they can get it in a chassis that handles well too.
e-Daytona?? I'm seeing fender vents.
I'm still old school but these are the future. Now if we can just get the pricing down some....
I am digging the emblem though.....
I sure hope it looks good/cool! So far all the electric vehicles look like they should come with Birkenstocks and tube socks! :barf:
... Now we gotta name it ...
Re-Charger for the full size
Hellzap for the sport model :woohoo:
Why is Dodge doing this? Because they have to. California via executive order has mandated that all new cars and passenger trucks be zero emissions by 2035.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/california-mandates-electric-cars-for-2035.html
Therefore if Dodge wants to sell cars in CA they have to start the process.
Ultimately, if it performs, people will like it. And at the moment, nothing out torques an electric motor.
In a few years when people hear "vroom, vroom", they will think you have one of those old slow cars.
Problem will be the price. Bet it will start at $45 or so.
Look the 2021 Challenger starts at just $30,000 with destination charges, and FCA is always giving at least $1,500 off. Right now an SXT with 305 hp v6 is selling for $28,000. In todays dollars that's a bargain, and in another 2 months when the 2022 models are coming in, leftover 2021's will be down to $25,000.
Makes me wonder when the last of the 1971 styled Challenger RT with a hemi will roll out the door. I for one will applaud the new E muscle car, but simultaneously will Lament the passing of the Hemi in todays Challenger.
I will probably keep my 74 Challenger with its gas guzzling 360/408 until i die !! With its Flowmaster 40's and Plum Crazy color i get stares and thumbs up everytime i drive it...and LOVE LOVE LOVE its sound !!
I just like Dodge's take on the whole thing....We know this is something being forced on all car makers by the Government...and most car makers have taken the "we're helping to save the planet", tree hugging approach in their advertising :crazytalk: ...
.while Dodge says....HELL YA...lets make it go fast and look good and we can burn the heck out of some rubber tires while we're at it... :burnout:
It's gonna be the same thing.
A concept car abd then when the actual car comes out it's missing a lot of things from the concept that looked cool
Sometimes I forget that they also have to cater to people who don't see a car as anything more than something to get them from home to work etc
I'm really not too excited I think the passion and the excitement are gone and have been gone. If it wasn't for everything that did 50 years ago who knows what they'd be selling
I agree Alan, it is refreshing to see Dodge take a different position towards EV in this video (not saving the world). We'll see how it continues. I am not a huge fan of EV but do think they have a place, kinda how I feel about a 4-cylinder car LOL. If they could evolve naturally I think everyone could be happy but it doesn't look that will happen.
There are a lot of hurdles left to get over, one being cost (mentioned already). It's just fine to have $50k plus car but there is a huge market for the average joe that needs a $30k or less vehicle and EV is not even close to that. Same story for used car market, from what I've read the batteries will need replaced roughly 4-6 years which will make them cost more (sometimes engines too but they can easily last 15+ years). For Dodge I wonder about weight, they already build the heaviest performance cars and I understand the EV batteries are 2 or 3 times as heavy as an engine! Everyone knows the mileage/distance issue, which is really more about recharge time. There's plenty more.
I have not read anything about how the gov't will be replacing all the taxes that come from gasoline, that is a huge pitfall coming for roads, etc. And there is the issue of electricity draw on a system that is already stressed. I'm sure they are thinking of solutions but many years off!
Video suggested a AWD electric four tires burning muscle car. Don't recall ever seeing a Tesla burn rubber before. Can't wait till 2024.
Quote from: 70vert on July 09, 2021, 10:56:38 AM
I have not read anything about how the gov't will be replacing all the taxes that come from gasoline, that is a huge pitfall coming for roads, etc. And there is the issue of electricity draw on a system that is already stressed. I'm sure they are thinking of solutions but many years off!
There was somewhere (in Australia I think), where they added a mile tax on EV's, and here in Sweden they are already staring to suggest that. Right now it is super cheap to drive an EV here, and you get a bonus if you buy one, but once the gas car are a minority, I'm sure EV's will be taxed somehow.