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Apparently this is becoming common place in the last year or so.
Anyone care to explain what is going on?
What I do know if food prices have risen so much that most items are doubled.
This is a list of factories with problems as of late.


1/11/21 A fire that destroyed 75,000-square-foot processing plant in Fayetteville
4/30/21 A fire ignited inside the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant in Monmouth, IL
7/25/21 Three-alarm fire at Kellogg plant in Memphis, 170 emergency personnel responded to the call
7/30/21 Firefighters on Friday battled a large fire at Tyson's River Valley Ingredients plant in Hanceville, Alabama
8/23/21 Fire crews were called to the Patak Meat Production company on Ewing Road in Austell
9/13/21 A fire at the JBS beef plant in Grand Island, Neb., on Sunday night forced a halt to slaughter and fabrication lines
10/13/21 A five-alarm fire ripped through the Darigold butter production plant in Caldwell, ID
11/15/21  A woman is in custody following a fire at the Garrard County Food Pantry
11/29/21  A fire broke out around 5:30 p.m. at the Maid-Rite Steak Company meat processing plant
12/13/21 West Side food processing plant in San Antonio left with smoke damage after a fire
1/7/22 Damage to a poultry processing plant on Hamilton's Mountain following an overnight fire
1/13/22 Firefighters worked for 12 hours to put a fire out at the Cargill-Nutrena plant in Lecompte, LA
1/31/22 a fertilizer plant with 600 tons of ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire on Cherry Street in Winston-Salem
2/3/22 A massive fire swept through Wisconsin River Meats in Mauston
2/3/22 At least 130 cows were killed in a fire at Percy Farm in Stowe
2/15/22 Bonanza Meat Company goes up in flames in El Paso, Texas
2/15/22 Nearly a week after the fire destroyed most of the Shearer's Foods plant in Hermiston
2/16/22 A fire had broken at US largest soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
2/18/22 An early morning fire tore through the milk parlor at Bess View Farm
2/19/22 Three people were injured, and one was hospitalized, after an ammonia leak at Lincoln Premium Poultry in Fremont
2/22/22 The Shearer's Foods plant in Hermiston caught fire after a propane boiler exploded
2/28/22 A smoldering pile of sulfur quickly became a raging chemical fire at Nutrien Ag Solutions
2/28/22 A man was hurt after a fire broke out at the Shadow Brook Farm and Dutch Girl Creamery
3/4/22 294,800 chickens destroyed at farm in Stoddard, Missouri
3/4/22 644,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/8/22 243,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in New Castle, Delaware
3/10/22 663,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, MD
3/10/22 915,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Taylor, IA
3/14/22 The blaze at 244 Meadow Drive was discovered shortly after 5 p.m. by farm owner Wayne Hoover
3/14/22 2,750,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Jefferson, Wisconsin
3/16/22 A fire at a Walmart warehouse distribution center has cast a large plume of smoke visible throughout Indianapolis.
3/16/22 Nestle Food Plant extensively damaged in fire and new production destroyed Jonesboro, Arkansas
3/17/22 5,347,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Buena Vista, Iowa
3/17/22 147,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Kent, Delaware
3/18/22 315,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/22/22 172,000 Turkeys destroyed on farms in South Dakota
3/22/22 570,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/24/22 Fire fighters from numerous towns are battling a major fire at the McCrum potato processing facility in Belfast.
3/24/22 418,500 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/25/22 250,300 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Franklin, Iowa
3/26/22 311,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
3/27/22 126,300 Turkeys destroyed in South Dakota
3/28/22 1,460,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Guthrie, Iowa
3/29/22 A massive fire burned 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopa
3/31/22 A structure fire caused significant damage to a large portion of key fresh onion packing facilities in south Texas
3/31/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Osceola, Iowa
3/31/22 5,011,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Osceola, Iowa
4/6/22 281,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/9/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/9/22 208,900 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/12/22 89,700 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/12/22 1,746,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Dixon, Nebraska
4/12/22 259,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Minnesota
4/13/22 Fire destroys East Conway Beef & Pork Meat Market in Conway, New Hampshire
4/13/22 Plane crashes into Gem State Processing, Idaho potato and food processing plant
4/13/22 77,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/14/22 Taylor Farms Food Processing plant burns down Salinas, California.
4/14/22 99,600 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/15/22 1,380,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Lancaster, Minnesota
4/19/22 Azure Standard nation's premier independent distributor of organic and healthy food, was destroyed by fire in Dufur, Oregon
4/19/22 339,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/19/22 58,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Montrose, Color
4/20/22 2,000,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Minnesota
4/21/22 A small plane crashed in the lot of a General Mills plant in Georgia
4/22/22 197,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/23/22 200,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/25/22 1,501,200 chickens destroyed at egg farm Cache, Utah
4/26/22 307,400 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
4/27/22 2,118,000 chickens destroyed at farm Knox, Nebraska
4/28/22 Egg-laying facility in Iowa kills 5.3 million chickens, fires 200-plus workers
4/28/22 Allen Harim Foods processing plant killed nearly 2M chickens in Delaware
4/2822 110,700 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
4/29/22 1,366,200 chickens destroyed at farm Weld Colorado
4/30/22 13,800 chickens destroyed at farm Sequoia Oklahoma
5/3/22 58,000 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Beadle S Dakota
5/3/22 114,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Lyon Minnesota
5/7/22 20,100 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/10/22 72,300 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
5/10/22 61,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/10/22 35,100 Turkeys destroyed Muskegon, Michigan
5/13/22 10,500 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/14/22 83,400 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/17/22 79,00 chickens destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/18/22 7,200 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/19/22 Train carrying limestone derailed Jensen Beach FL
5/21/22 57,000 Turkeys destroyed on farm in Dakota Minnesota
5/23/22 4,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/29/22 A Saturday night fire destroyed a poultry building at Forsman Farms
5/31/22 3,000,000 chickens destroyed by fire at Forsman facility in Stockholm Township, Minnesota
6/2/22 30,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
6/7/22 A fire occurred Tuesday evening at the JBS meat packing plant in Green Bay.
6/8/22 Firefighters from Tangipahoa Fire District 1 respond to a fire at the Purina Feed Mill in Arcola
6/9/22 Irrigation water was canceled in California (the #1 producer of food in the US) and storage water flushed directly out to the delta.

Avian flu has been spreading in North America. It's more prevalent in the US than in Canada but we have it to. If a flock contracts Avian Flu it has to be destroyed. I strongly suspect that's why there are so many large kills on chicken and turkey farms. Animal disease is not new. This is just part of what happens. A few years ago China had swine flu and millions of pigs were killed.

None on that list are noted as "intentional" to get rid of disease.

There is a separate list of what has happened due to disease. 

It's part of a paranoid conspiracy theory that's been circulating in recent times.
First of all, a bird flu epidemic happened earlier this year and many flocks at poultry farms across the country had to be culled when they got infected.  It wasn't just commercial operations affected, for example a county wildlife sanctuary park near me suffered a big die off of water birds a few months ago with hundreds of dead birds washing up on the shore of the lake.  :crying:
To the best of my knowledge the bird flu epidemic has subsided and the flocks of chickens and such are being rebuilt.  Hopefully egg prices will come down soon.
As a pilot and flight instructor who studies aviation accidents I am pretty disgusted that these conspiracy theory whack jobs include the 4/13 crash at a potato processing plant in their lists. It's spitting on the grave of the young commercial pilot who died flying a UPS contractor cargo plane and hit a smokestack in a night approach in a snow storm to claim it was intentional to hurt food production. The stack had been installed there a few years earlier and violated FAA regs, so it's a crime this happened. Look up Dan Gryder on YouTube he does a great job of analysis of that accident.
I don't know that the plant ops were affected except maybe briefly.  Maybe they will get sued out of existence by her family though. Was that how the complex plot to cut food production and destroy the US supposed to work?  :rofl:
How many food plants and farms are there in the US.  I pass dozens in my commutes around the Chicago burbs. There must be 10s of thousands across the country. A % have fires and accidents every year, year after year, not just the last year. I started my engineering career as a consulting engineer for a forensic company and we investigated accidents and fires at many food companies in the 80s, so it's nothing new.  Accidents and fires happen all the time at manufacturing facilities, it's not an evil plot, it's usually poorly trained or corner cutting employees, poorly maintained equipment, poorly designed machines or systems, or a combination of those that cause accidents and fires.
Never was I involved in an investigation that concluded the cause was a deep state plot to destroy society.  :alan2cents:

OK, there are a few that are listed as burning due to avian flu. 

Would that be biological warfare then? 

Where did avian flu originate?  Where did sars originate?  Where do most all virus's and disease's originate? 
  Seems China is the producer of virus and disease.

Bird flu epidemics are not a new thing.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01338-2

Yes, animal disease is not a new thing.  So, animal disease being a cause for 10 of those 100 means nothing but deflection. 
So, 10% are caused by animal disease.  Or are yal saying that a majority % was caused by animal disease? 

What is new is 100 food processing factories burning within a year and a half.

Or is our food infrastructure used to having 100 burnings each year?

Doesn't seem like I have heard of so many ever in my lifetime.   

First, where did this list come from? I don't see a source.
Assuming it is all factual it is certainly a surprising number but as you ask we don't know the average annual factory fires and/or animal deaths. So maybe it is just typical. And I try to avoid making up background stories of possible reason without all the facts. It seems the primary "winner" in these kind of things are the conspiracy theorists.

That's a lot of BBQ :)) :drooling:

I'm avoiding making up background stories as well.
I know food prices have doubled.  Meaning 8 or 11 % inflation is bull crap.

Here is a list with some links.  All you have to do is search and there are numerous sources for these burnings.  Whether it be the 100 left leaning "media" sources or the 10 right leaning "media" sources. 

I'm not raising anything political.  I'm worried about American's having a major resource's issue in the coming months.  That's what my bankers are telling me as are my accountants.



1/11/21 A fire that destroyed 75,000-square-foot processing plant in Fayetteville
4/30/21 A fire ignited inside the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant in Monmouth, IL
7/25/21 Three-alarm fire at Kellogg plant in Memphis, 170 emergency personnel responded to the call
7/30/21 Firefighters on Friday battled a large fire at Tyson's River Valley Ingredients plant in Hanceville, Alabama
8/23/21 Fire crews were called to the Patak Meat Production company on Ewing Road in Austell
9/13/21 A fire at the JBS beef plant in Grand Island, Neb., on Sunday night forced a halt to slaughter and fabrication lines
10/13/21 A five-alarm fire ripped through the Darigold butter production plant in Caldwell, ID
11/15/21 A woman is in custody following a fire at the Garrard County Food Pantry
11/29/21 A fire broke out around 5:30 p.m. at the Maid-Rite Steak Company meat processing plant
12/13/21 West Side food processing plant in San Antonio left with smoke damage after a fire
1/7/22 Damage to a poultry processing plant on Hamilton's Mountain following an overnight fire
1/13/22 Firefighters worked for 12 hours to put a fire out at the Cargill-Nutrena plant in Lecompte, LA
1/31/22 a fertilizer plant with 600 tons of ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire on Cherry Street in Winston-Salem
2/3/22 A massive fire swept through Wisconsin River Meats in Mauston
2/3/22 At least 130 cows were killed in a fire at Percy Farm in Stowe
2/15/22 Bonanza Meat Company goes up in flames in El Paso, Texas
2/15/22 Nearly a week after the fire destroyed most of the Shearer's Foods plant in Hermiston
2/16/22 A fire had broken at US largest soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
2/18/22 An early morning fire tore through the milk parlor at Bess View Farm
2/19/22 Three people were injured, and one was hospitalized, after an ammonia leak at Lincoln Premium Poultry in Fremont
2/22/22 The Shearer's Foods plant in Hermiston caught fire after a propane boiler exploded
2/28/22 A smoldering pile of sulfur quickly became a raging chemical fire at Nutrien Ag Solutions
2/28/22 A man was hurt after a fire broke out at the Shadow Brook Farm and Dutch Girl Creamery
3/4/22 294,800 chickens destroyed at farm in Stoddard, Missouri
3/4/22 644,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/8/22 243,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in New Castle, Delaware
3/10/22 663,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, MD
3/10/22 915,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Taylor, IA
3/14/22 The blaze at 244 Meadow Drive was discovered shortly after 5 p.m. by farm owner Wayne Hoover
3/14/22 2,750,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Jefferson, Wisconsin
3/16/22 A fire at a Walmart warehouse distribution center has cast a large plume of smoke visible throughout Indianapolis.
3/16/22 Nestle Food Plant extensively damaged in fire and new production destroyed Jonesboro, Arkansas
3/17/22 5,347,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Buena Vista, Iowa
3/17/22 147,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Kent, Delaware
3/18/22 315,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/22/22 172,000 Turkeys destroyed on farms in South Dakota
3/22/22 570,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/24/22 Fire fighters from numerous towns are battling a major fire at the McCrum potato processing facility in Belfast.
3/24/22 418,500 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/25/22 250,300 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Franklin, Iowa
3/26/22 311,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
3/27/22 126,300 Turkeys destroyed in South Dakota
3/28/22 1,460,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Guthrie, Iowa
3/29/22 A massive fire burned 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopa
3/31/22 A structure fire caused significant damage to a large portion of key fresh onion packing facilities in south Texas
3/31/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Osceola, Iowa
3/31/22 5,011,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Osceola, Iowa
4/6/22 281,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/9/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/9/22 208,900 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/12/22 89,700 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/12/22 1,746,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Dixon, Nebraska
4/12/22 259,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Minnesota
4/13/22 Fire destroys East Conway Beef & Pork Meat Market in Conway, New Hampshire
4/13/22 Plane crashes into Gem State Processing, Idaho potato and food processing plant
4/13/22 77,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/14/22 Taylor Farms Food Processing plant burns down Salinas, California.
4/14/22 99,600 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/15/22 1,380,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Lancaster, Minnesota
4/19/22 Azure Standard nation's premier independent distributor of organic and healthy food, was destroyed by fire in Dufur, Oregon
4/19/22 339,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/19/22 58,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Montrose, Color
4/20/22 2,000,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Minnesota
4/21/22 A small plane crashed in the lot of a General Mills plant in Georgia
4/22/22 197,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/23/22 200,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/25/22 1,501,200 chickens destroyed at egg farm Cache, Utah
4/26/22 307,400 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
4/27/22 2,118,000 chickens destroyed at farm Knox, Nebraska
4/28/22 Egg-laying facility in Iowa kills 5.3 million chickens, fires 200-plus workers
4/28/22 Allen Harim Foods processing plant killed nearly 2M chickens in Delaware
4/2822 110,700 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
4/29/22 1,366,200 chickens destroyed at farm Weld Colorado
4/30/22 13,800 chickens destroyed at farm Sequoia Oklahoma
5/3/22 58,000 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Beadle S Dakota
5/3/22 114,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Lyon Minnesota
5/7/22 20,100 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/10/22 72,300 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
5/10/22 61,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/10/22 35,100 Turkeys destroyed Muskegon, Michigan
5/13/22 10,500 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/14/22 83,400 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/17/22 79,00 chickens destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/18/22 7,200 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/19/22 Train carrying limestone derailed Jensen Beach FL
5/21/22 57,000 Turkeys destroyed on farm in Dakota Minnesota
5/23/22 4,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/29/22 A Saturday night fire destroyed a poultry building at Forsman Farms
5/31/22 3,000,000 chickens destroyed by fire at Forsman facility in Stockholm Township, Minnesota
6/2/22 30,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
6/7/22 A fire occurred Tuesday evening at the JBS meat packing plant in Green Bay.
6/8/22 Firefighters from Tangipahoa Fire District 1 respond to a fire at the Purina Feed Mill in Arcola
6/9/22 Irrigation water was canceled in California (the #1 producer of food in the US) and storage water flushed directly out to the delta.

I"m not sure why the links are not coming up. 

I find it utterly amazing the numbers of people that can't see what is going on. There is one hell of a storm on the horizon.

Food prices are going up primarily due to fuel prices. Diesel is required for production and transport. Fertilizer prices are almost double. Anhydrous Ammonia that cost $465 in 2020, $875 in 2021 is now $1750. 1 bu of seed corn that plants 2 1/3 acres costs $315 with dealer discount. Natural gas and propane are double from last year,  etc etc etc etc

Id like a see a fact check on that list. Its at least 1 yr old if not longer.

Nowadays it seems like the only difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy is about 6 months

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 12, 2022, 09:01:33 AM
It's part of a paranoid conspiracy theory that's been circulating in recent times.
First of all, a bird flu epidemic happened earlier this year and many flocks at poultry farms across the country had to be culled when they got infected.  It wasn't just commercial operations affected, for example a county wildlife sanctuary park near me suffered a big die off of water birds a few months ago with hundreds of dead birds washing up on the shore of the lake.  :crying:
To the best of my knowledge the bird flu epidemic has subsided and the flocks of chickens and such are being rebuilt.  Hopefully egg prices will come down soon.
As a pilot and flight instructor who studies aviation accidents I am pretty disgusted that these conspiracy theory whack jobs include the 4/13 crash at a potato processing plant in their lists. It's spitting on the grave of the young commercial pilot who died flying a UPS contractor cargo plane and hit a smokestack in a night approach in a snow storm to claim it was intentional to hurt food production. The stack had been installed there a few years earlier and violated FAA regs, so it's a crime this happened. Look up Dan Gryder on YouTube he does a great job of analysis of that accident.
I don't know that the plant ops were affected except maybe briefly.  Maybe they will get sued out of existence by her family though. Was that how the complex plot to cut food production and destroy the US supposed to work?  :rofl:
How many food plants and farms are there in the US.  I pass dozens in my commutes around the Chicago burbs. There must be 10s of thousands across the country. A % have fires and accidents every year, year after year, not just the last year. I started my engineering career as a consulting engineer for a forensic company and we investigated accidents and fires at many food companies in the 80s, so it's nothing new.  Accidents and fires happen all the time at manufacturing facilities, it's not an evil plot, it's usually poorly trained or corner cutting employees, poorly maintained equipment, poorly designed machines or systems, or a combination of those that cause accidents and fires.
Never was I involved in an investigation that concluded the cause was a deep state plot to destroy society.  :alan2cents:

Please Don't bring that crap from the FABO "news & politics" section over here. 

 ::) right...nothing to see here....move along...

I think this has been pretty well debunked - no arson and only a fraction of the 36,000 plants have burned.

Seems like a reasonable question/concern to me. Even if it is well within statistical probabilities and not part of something larger, it's always fair to bring something up for honest discussion. Not all conspiracy theories are BS. Some are actually legitimate issues that need further examination. Not taking people seriously when serious questions are posed actually serves to divide us even more as a nation. And some do benefit from this separation.

What I find alarming more than the fires themselves is how many people in our country are quick to accept whatever their favorite news source tells them. Lately, if anyone dares go against the grain and and question authority, they are immediately branded as conspiracy theory whack jobs and dismissed without being heard. That's not to say there are "Spectre" like people plotting to destroy civilization as we know it but it's naive to think there aren't people, corporations and politicians who move public opinion in certain directions for their own financial or political gain. History is filled with examples of this.

This is a very harsh comparison but think about the propaganda German people were told by their trusted leaders  through the 1930s and 40s. An entire civilian populace stuck their heads in the sand and chose to believe there was nothing wrong as their neighbors, friends and colleagues were rounded up and sent away "for their own protection."

@FSHTAIL (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chris-pauluk_568) i couldn't have said it better.

Quote from: 70vert on June 12, 2022, 11:19:16 AM
First, where did this list come from? I don't see a source.
Assuming it is all factual it is certainly a surprising number but as you ask we don't know the average annual factory fires and/or animal deaths. So maybe it is just typical. And I try to avoid making up background stories of possible reason without all the facts. It seems the primary "winner" in these kind of things are the conspiracy theorists.

Google is your friend.     
Only took about 2 minutes to confirm all of these. 
Discrediting something without doing the research is propaganda in and of itself.   

Facts.      Your reply is just lazy..    no source needed. 

This list is a little outdated as well, there have been 12 more instances since the last on the list.   

What I find odd is left-leaning news outlets don't seem to be covering these things, just a little stations locally where it happens.

You can almost place a bet once you see a fact check on anything that there is some truth behind it nowadays, and what's funny is that's not a conspiracy theory, nine times out of ten it seems like it's factual and they just sidestep it to make it partly true or partly false with that verbiage

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-processing-fire/fact-check-food-processing-plant-fires-in-2022-are-not-part-of-a-conspiracy-to-trigger-u-s-food-shortages-idUSL2N2WW2CY

@FSHTAIL (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chris-pauluk_568) we are on fairly identical wavelengths. Hence my "liking" your comments. I'd only differ in that google is not our friend. It's heavily filtered, tracked and rearranged in my findings. I've switched to using Brave as a search tool. Also, I don't listen to ANY MSM even at the local news level. Your research on these fires is spot on. The rabbit hole runs deep. As a newly retired power grid protection guy (look up Protective Relay Technician or Power Grid Relay Tech), I could drop a few hints that would have your naysayers digging bunkers and stockpiling candles. Stay awake, brother...and keep rolling with the punches.

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of looking the other way and pretending all is fine even when something doesn't seem quite right.

I just call any search "Google" because everybody knows what that is, duck duck go is my usual go to when searching for things, although that's somewhat changing, there are others.
I know exactly what google is..

Our grid can hardly handle what we have, if just 5% of our vehicles went electric, imagine a warm summer night, everyones a/c is spinning/pumping away..     EV charging as well...
We will soon have new excuses for not being able to get to work.....     sorry, power went out, have no charge..
Electricity prices will skyrocket..   

Quote from: 7E-Bodies on June 13, 2022, 11:48:09 AM
@FSHTAIL (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chris-pauluk_568) we are on fairly identical wavelengths. Hence my "liking" your comments. I'd only differ in that google is not our friend. It's heavily filtered, tracked and rearranged in my findings. I've switched to using Brave as a search tool. Also, I don't listen to ANY MSM even at the local news level. Your research on these fires is spot on. The rabbit hole runs deep. As a newly retired power grid protection guy (look up Protective Relay Technician or Power Grid Relay Tech), I could drop a few hints that would have your naysayers digging bunkers and stockpiling candles. Stay awake, brother...and keep rolling with the punches.

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Let's not forget pizzagate and the kid who "got some bad intel" after entering a pizza store with an ar15 to save the kids

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

Quote from: MKA on June 13, 2022, 05:12:20 PM

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Let's not forget pizzagate and the kid who "got some bad intel" after entering a pizza store with an ar15 to save the kids


https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

I don't think anyone is suggesting folks run off half cocked based on things they hear or read. But to turn a blind eye to things you hear because it wasn't vetted by cable news is equally dangerous. Media sources are just corporations like any other. Their sole purpose is to turn a profit.

If Exxon bought and became the parent company of CNN, would you still trust them as your news source? Exxon at least has government oversight and regulation. Media does not. They can ignore the stories they want, cover things in greater detail if they choose, leave out relevant information to paint a different picture. And of course they bring in "experts" to discuss their personal opinions.

Remember this laughable moment?

Quote from: 70 Challenger Lover on June 13, 2022, 12:43:04 PM

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of looking the other way and pretending all is fine even when something doesn't seem quite right.

You mean the people that blindly follow a nationalistic leader or movement who plays to their fears of other people and their differences?   A leader that tells white nationalists to stand down and stand by?    That repeats the lies until they become truths?   

This country has problems and if we focus on our core values and elect officials that share those values  and talk policy then we can make better choices.   I happen to like Trumps largest (arguable)  policy decision on China.  We need more tariffs and less business in China.  Not sure about the bromance with Putin but when he started making cat calls to white nationalistic and nazi parties, forget it.  I don't care about his policies.   The man has no values.  Only what gets him elected.  Kind of like these stories.  They have no value.  Only what gets you to listen.

John McCain was a war hero remind me again why Trump didn't like him?

MKA,

I'm guessing your talking about the Proud Boys?   What does race have so do with anything?   Not everyone in the Proud Boys is white last I saw..
What's wrong with being a nationalist?   Do you know what being a Nationalist is?   You say that as if it's a bad thing?

I was trying to get some insight into food factories burning. 
Really didn't figure on politics getting into it.

So, I'll just steer this back in the correct direction.  We are not allowed to talk politics here. My purpose was not that. 

Can we talk about the list of 100 food processors that have burnt up? 
My family needs to eat three meals a day in order to not be stunted little kids that eat nothing but rice. 

Have there been as many burnings or closures in the past that anyone can recall?
Something like 9 a month or 2 a week for the past year? 

Food....

I'm thinking they want the chaos and division..   

This is an older video I had kicking around on my phone to send to my brother in Montana that wouldn't have believed it if I didn't take this.. 
I'm not too far from the Black Lives Matter George Floyd riot area in Minneapolis Minnesota..  Far enough to not worry about opening my gun safe, close enough to see the glow in the sky from the fires.   

This is the actual Target that got looted..       
Check out this premium virtue signaling.    :notsure:

yeah, the fire is a good touch on that sign.  Nice looking antifa people there happy about burning target down.   

They are ridiculous.  Virtue signaling, not at it's best. 

The old saying "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see" holds true for any news "media" and a lot of the internet, even the "fact checkers" have an agenda so how believable are they?

Another coincidence. 
Published: Jun. 13, 2022 at 12:22 PM EDT
Multiple crews responding to fire at food manufacturing facility near Portage-Waupaca County line
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/06/13/multiple-crews-responding-fire-near-waupaca/

Quote from: PLY474 on June 14, 2022, 08:44:36 AM
Another coincidence. 
Published: Jun. 13, 2022 at 12:22 PM EDT
Multiple crews responding to fire at food manufacturing facility near Portage-Waupaca County line
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/06/13/multiple-crews-responding-fire-near-waupaca/

Probably been 1,000 houses catch fire to every 1 food producer. You think they're trying to send everyone to the streets hungry ?

A lot of houses do burn from wild fires and home owner mistakes. 

Quote from: cuda hunter on June 14, 2022, 09:33:17 AM
A lot of houses do burn from wild fires and home owner mistakes.

Just a guess? but it's gotta be a ratio of what 1 food factory to millions of houses?  :dunno:

The way rumors and conspiracy theories get going and pick up a head of steam is fascinating to watch but also sort of disturbing how invested people get in supporting them once you question them.
Lots of questions raised with this "some evil scheming entity is burning food facilities to starve us or something, for some reason" story that is circulating on social media and into our inboxes.
I guess all the smart people can put all the pieces together and know all the answers, but I'm sort of a moron so maybe someone will enlighten me on a few questions I have?
How many food processing facilities are there in the United States total, and what percentage have experienced fires or other catastrophes this year? 1%, 5%, 50%?
Using the historical data that I am sure that being the diligent intelligent scholars most of you are, can you share this data with me as to how many food facilities experienced fires or other catastrophes last year, 2020, 2019, in fact an average per year for the last 10 years would be important to know to determine how much in excess these fires have grown in the last year.
And don't tell me these situations never happened before.  I mentioned in an earlier post I worked at a consulting engineering company as a forensic engineer and investigated a number of cases involving fires and other accidents at food processing facilities.  That was '86-'90.  I'll never forget the pictures from a case I reviewed then where a guy was cleaning an industrial meat grinder for the supplier of ground beef for one of the largest fast food restaurant chains, someone heard the machine running and went to check on him and only found a couple feet of a mop handle where he'd been, and a pile of fresh ground meat. Sorry I digressed.  :stop: :Thud:
Who is behind this plot and what is their end goal?  Is it the deep state, the cabal or whatever it is called I hear some angry shouting at clouds type men often rant about consisting of the Rothchilds and such elites that secretly work behind the scenes to control the world?  Or the other side might say its white supremacist's trying to perpetuate the inequitable country we have that is rotten to the core and needs to be torn down and rebuilt, or maybe Putin and his puppet Trump are the villain's here?  Which is it.... inquiring minds want to know!!
And if in fact there is a recent spike in fires at food processing plants this year, would it be at all possible that there are some other less nefarious reasons for it?  Not like any companies have been having problems recently hiring employees and thus are understaffed, and their workers are overworked, burned out and prone to making more mistakes than in previous times.  Not like there are shortages of parts and new equipment the last couple years, and that any company would ever have to patch old or broken equipment together, and jerry rig things to keep the lines going, right?
Anyway, hopefully someone can answer these questions for me with a better answer than "you need to stop watching the MSM" which, news flash, is no better than the idiotic "you watch Fox (or if they were really "clever" "FAUX NEWS" cliché reply that those on the other side who couldn't come up with an intelligent rebuttal to someone's argument would always use in the 2010s.
I'll hang up now and listen for my answer. Thanks.  :cheers:

Quote from: cuda hunter on June 13, 2022, 08:27:20 PM
I was trying to get some insight into food factories burning. 
Really didn't figure on politics getting into it.

Ha Ha...I was at Mopars in the Park in the Minneapolis area almost two weeks ago. Wasn't expecting politics...but... I couldn't believe how many conversations I overheard that were all about Biden, Trump, next election, Lets go Brandon shirts..etc. Americans love to talk politics everywhere...I guess?

Quote from: FSHTAIL on June 13, 2022, 01:37:22 AM
Nowadays it seems like the only difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy is about 6 months

I used to dismiss a lot of 'conspiracy' news stories out of hand....but over the last couple years of casually keeping an eye on 'conspiracies' and seeing how the news plays out 4 to 12 months later.....I tend to agree with you @FSHTAIL (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chris-pauluk_568)
There's still a lot of crap out there, but more proves out to have some credibility than I would have first thought.