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With all the talk about MasonDaniel7's intrusion OR service on our forum I thought a poll would be in order. Frankly I'm surprised one hasn't come up yet. If there's a suggestion for another option let me know but I think these three are enough.

Okay fellow members - let the voting begin.

 :it's  a depends. 
Recently,  people started posting a picture of the car in the ad, and  details or fender tag info.
Then people can reference the car.
Historically,  it's a dead link to Ebay,  so worthless.
Ban unless it's posted with pictures and details.
And go back and delete all those that  don't.

Can I get two votes ?
I'm the one sucker that voted to keep him, but I would also vote that "I don't care either way".

The way I see it....anyone that participates on our website is a good thing....we have so many great members and so few that actually come on and engage or join in on conversations on a regular basis.

I understand he's a bot, I understand some of the eBay ads get repeated over and over.....but at least 25% of his posts on here start conversations or spark controversies about particular cars or what not (oh don't buy that re-tagged car etc...).

I feel for our regular members who's legit ads get pushed back really quick, that's why I suggested a pin for Josh's M46 ad....I'm not sure how else to correct that, other than re-title the categories so Mason can have one all to himself and everybody else uses a new one  :thinking:

I don't personally have time to check eBay daily, so I kinda appreciate seeing the latest E-Bodies (and the odd A Body Barracuda) that are available on here and like what's been said time and time again....if you don't like it, don't open it....personally I only open the ones that have an interesting title...

I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  :grouphug: before banning one member for posting too much :lurking:

How do we get more members involved?

I'll send him a PM to see how he feels about it! :haha:

Perhaps, Mason's posts can just all be put in their own category. 
I do like looking at the cars that he posts simply because I don't have time to check ebay every day.  I look at every other thing on the web, but epay doesn't get my time.

I do agree with,
""I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  before banning one member for posting too much  ""

Is there a way to put every post he makes in the ebay/other ad section?  We know he is not going to post anything but cars for sale on ebay.  Can't he just be banned to the one forum thread section since for years we know he has only posted cars for sale on ebay?

Quote from: Mr Cuda on August 24, 2022, 07:35:12 AM
How do we get more members involved?

That's the big question... :thinking:

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 07:11:57 AM

I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  :grouphug: before banning one member for posting too much :lurking:

You think masondaniel is a member? As in a person? To me this is an enthusiasts forum. Not a place for a marketing bot.

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 07:11:57 AM
Can I get two votes ?
I'm the one sucker that voted to keep him, but I would also vote that "I don't care either way".

The way I see it....anyone that participates on our website is a good thing....we have so many great members and so few that actually come on and engage or join in on conversations on a regular basis.

I understand he's a bot, I understand some of the eBay ads get repeated over and over.....but at least 25% of his posts on here start conversations or spark controversies about particular cars or what not (oh don't buy that re-tagged car etc...).

I feel for our regular members who's legit ads get pushed back really quick, that's why I suggested a pin for Josh's M46 ad....I'm not sure how else to correct that, other than re-title the categories so Mason can have one all to himself and everybody else uses a new one  :thinking:

I don't personally have time to check eBay daily, so I kinda appreciate seeing the latest E-Bodies (and the odd A Body Barracuda) that are available on here and like what's been said time and time again....if you don't like it, don't open it....personally I only open the ones that have an interesting title...

I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  :grouphug: before banning one member for posting too much :lurking:

Can you not ignore a member, so you do not see their posts?

Does anybody understand or know how "bots" work ? Obviously whoever set this one up, placed it in the for sale section instead of the proper eBay section....and obviously, asking Mason to switch won't work, having Cody move every one is not practical.....if he's banned, or blocked, I'm sure a new one will join at some point.... :looney:

So why not re-title the two categories,  if Mason is a bot he will continue under the same section even though it has a different title, while everybody else can use the other section with a new title  :dunno:

I also notice "new" members joining only to use the ad section(s), which I have no problem with, although I think it's kinda tacky :rolleyes: I am glad the 10 post limit thing seems to be working on weeding out the scammers...

Quote from: dodj on August 24, 2022, 08:03:17 AM

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 07:11:57 AM

I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  :grouphug: before banning one member for posting too much :lurking:

You think masondaniel is a member? As in a person? To me this is an enthusiasts forum. Not a place for a marketing bot.

Yes I understand it's not a person, but since he's only posting Barracuda and Challenger ads, and not posting general eBay ads for every type car...I really don't mind.....Can't robots be E-Body enthusiasts too ?   :haha: :haha:  now if you want to talk about the pop-up ads...that's a different story :pullinghair:

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 08:20:24 AM

Quote from: dodj on August 24, 2022, 08:03:17 AM

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 07:11:57 AM

I guess what I would like to see is more posts everyday from the other 3420 members that we have.  :grouphug: before banning one member for posting too much :lurking:

You think masondaniel is a member? As in a person? To me this is an enthusiasts forum. Not a place for a marketing bot.

Yes I understand it's not a person, but since he's only posting Barracuda and Challenger ads, and not posting general eBay ads for every type car...I really don't mind.....Can't robots be E-Body enthusiasts too ?   :haha: :haha:  now if you want to talk about the pop-up ads...that's a different story :pullinghair:

Well..it's still marketing. There are people marketing here called sponsors - they pay a certain amount to get you to use their product or service. I think if a bot is drumming up $$ for a business, they should pay the site. Other businesses do, don't think a bot should get a free pass.

Valid point....does a "bot" get kickbacks from eBay ? :huh:

Personally I dont mind either way - it often sparks good conversation here.  I would agree having to move every post is not practical.  Retitle the categories seems like an easy fix.  Ebay seems like a good barometer of where prices are going as well as a good resource for project cars.  :alan2cents:

Is it possible to isolate Mason's posts into it's own separate forum?  Or add a filter to not display his posts?

I can see people's frustrations, but as mentioned above, I do learn a lot from what you guys post regarding some of these cars for sale. I don't really mind, although moving to an eBay category might help. 

I'd be happy if I could just filter out the threads he starts so that I'm not annoyed, and the guys who enjoy it can still see them.

I say ban him.

Or force all his posts into the for sale section.

I like them. One of the only reasons that I check in every day.

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 08:38:53 AM
Valid point....does a "bot" get kickbacks from eBay ? :huh:

Set up by someone...for a reason...reason is likely money. At least that is how I see it. I could be wrong..it happened once or twice before...lol

It would be interesting to know what motivated someone to set up a program to constantly repost ebay ads here.
I can't see ebay paying to have places repost listings on various enthusiast forums.  Has anybody seen that happening on any other forum?
I've read articles about the shady underworld of the internet where there are organizations in places like China that pay people to generate traffic on various internet sites and they get paid by how many responses and looks their postings get.  But what benefit would that be if that is what MasonDixon is a part of?
Whatever the case, Cars for sale and wanted should be a section only for cars that members here post of theirs to sell, not to repost ads found elsewhere.
If all of Mason Dixons postings were in the items found on ebay, craigslist etc section that would be fine I guess, but not fine when burying legitimate for sale and wanted listings that members here post.
As for getting more people to post here, I wish that would happen too.  However I've seen similar situations with other car forums I'm on, where there just doesn't seem to be as much activity anymore compared to 10 or 15 years ago.  I'm not sure why that is. 
I do feel that some forums including here, become sort of a "old boys club" where the same dozen or so members generate the majority of the posting.  You can see where that doesn't make others feel too encouraged to try to post.
The other thing is, that social media creates an environment where people need affirmation to get actively involved in participating.  If someone posts something online and doesn't get much, or any, response or "likes", they feel discouraged and are unlikely to post further.
So if you want to see more participation here, make it a point to respond to posts you see by members who are new or don't post much, that is the one way to generate enthusiasm for a social media site.  :alan2cents:

Create a new category called "Bot Sale Ads" Then ban him from all other categories.

Quote from: Racer57 on August 24, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
Create a new category called "Bot Sale Ads" Then ban him from all other categories.

I like this idea.... I notice most that bother to comment seem to be on the side of keeping.
Limiting this users access could solve the one issue...

  Why is user participation down?...Facebook.  Lot's of activity over there. I even see a few FB posts by members I know that don't bother to bring the content over here.   

Quote from: anlauto on August 24, 2022, 08:12:55 AM

So why not re-title the two categories,  if Mason is a bot he will continue under the same section even though it has a different title, while everybody else can use the other section with a new title  :dunno:

This seems like a great, and "simple" solution. The bot will likely not know, and they will be the only ones posting to that section.  So those that don't like the bot can just not look and it won't mess up the member's adds.

Quote from: Bullitt- on August 24, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
Why is user participation down?...Facebook.  Lot's of activity over there. I even see a few FB posts by members I know that don't bother to bring the content over here.   

Well...makes sense I guess. But that really sux. I have no interest in the Facebook world.

Nice suggestions BUT wherever the bot's posts are designated to wouldn't they still show up for the members that use the 'Show unread posts since last visit." option. I believe they would and there's no way around it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll admit that I click on a Mason Daniel post now and then but I wouldn't miss them if they disappeared.  There's just too many of them.  If theres a car on ebay that someone has a question about, sure go ahead and share it.  But I don't need to see every single car for sale out there.  That really doesn't fall in line with what the forum is, or should be about, in my opinion.


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They are not a member who contributes anything to the forum, it is simply spam whether they get money for it or not. I think if any other member routinely clogged up a forum like that it would not be allowed. I think if Cody or Dave can find a way for Mason to have his own sub forum that would work, otherwise I vote for ban.

I know of 6 other sites that Mason was banned from.  Same issue.

This is a bot that is specifically set up by ebay. 


Yes the mason posts would still show up in the unread posts thread if he were to be put in his own little dark corner.  But that would be the only place to see them.  And then it wouldn't push actual members cars for sale or wanted to the bottom or next page.

As far as I can tell, he is banned on most all of the mopar sites. 

I fully agree with making conversation with any new poster here.  Every time I see something I try to contribute so that we keep the new guy coming back.

Mason's posts do start conversation.  keep him, in a dark corner. Isolated.  He is the only contributing bot.

I voted to ban the bot from the site. I don't care really one way or the other if someone posted a bunch of ebay cars in the form. But this is a BOT. Get rid of it.  :thumbdown:

Activity from members has been a theme in this thread and I think important to note - @cuda hunter (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-hunter_176) you are on point with contributing to keeping new guys coming back.  As a new member I will say the support, help and personal connections here is what keeps me coming back

Quote from: Bullitt- on August 24, 2022, 12:42:08 PM

Quote from: Racer57 on August 24, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
Create a new category called "Bot Sale Ads" Then ban him from all other categories.

I like this idea.... I notice most that bother to comment seem to be on the side of keeping.
Limiting this users access could solve the one issue...

  Why is user participation down?...Facebook.  Lot's of activity over there. I even see a few FB posts by members I know that don't bother to bring the content over here.   

I am on FB quite a bit and I always try to refer people with questions etc. to join/post on the forum, I enjoy both formats.

If we are voting, I would say, "no Bots."

We can all go to eBay or wherever else to find out deals on various sites. It's nice to see local posts on e-bodies.org.

When does the voting end, what is the criteria, and who will exercise the will of the people?

Pretty sure it's a non binding referendum...

...also, there's no close date. It'll stay open until people loose interest.

Speaking of bots, I just got an email from the FBI asking for a lot of personal info so they could send me money..... :Thud:

People this is not a member. It is a bot. It will not have any hurt feelings if it gets removed from the site. Just kick the thing off the site and be done with it. If this bot is left alone and continues posting, where does the line get drawn. What if another bot that posts parts or one that posts some other crap gets on board. Does that next bot get to stay?

Mods, this is a bot. Please just get rid of it as you would any other bot.

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 Neutralize it   :deadhorse:

I get/understand the negative feelings towards a " BOT" but in my opinion this one does provide a use. I enjoying seeing what's for sale. If it can be contained in it's own section as to not impede others posts            ( thinking of Josh and his M46 post, he does have a point)  what's the difference from any other post? If you don't want to see it, don't open/click on it?  Same as the babe thread, picture of the day thread etc... etc....

I don`t really care that it`s a bot or not, my only real issue is that it makes a bunch of posts all at once so that all the other new/current threads get pushed off and you then have to go down a couple pages to find them. That gets annoying when it happens every other day. Putting the posts in a separate topic section would fix Josh`s issue but it would still spam the Recent Topics one which is the one I almost always go to.

Quote from: torredcuda on August 27, 2022, 04:44:17 AM
Putting the posts in a separate topic section would fix Josh`s issue but it would still spam the Recent Topics one which is the one I almost always go to.

Thank you for stressing that.  :bigthumb:

I totally agree with that.  But do not know or understand the logistics of creating a separate section just for the BOT. 

Haven't seen any MD7 posts for a couple days. Maybe it's been dealt with?

Edit... never mind  :Thud:

Quote from: dodj on August 28, 2022, 03:40:50 AM
Haven't seen any MD7 posts for a couple days. Maybe it's been dealt with?

https://forum.e-bodies.org/cars-for-sale-or-wanted/8/-1973-plymouth-barracuda-cuda-340-automatic/26294/msg299507#new

Seems it posts every couple days.

There's four today on the first page.

I have always been fond of this forum being full of REAL people. The thought of bots being allowed here troubles me. JMO

Late to the party but my vote counts!

If possible, I'm also in favor of a separate topic for the bots. Even with a disclaimer so anyone who doesn't want to look at it doesn't need to. I don't like Facebook or ebay, so I don't mind seeing what people are asking for there cars.

 :deadhorse:
My issue is still all the mason daniels  ebay posts that are DEAD !!!!
I hate the bottom of page links to some expired post with  no pictures,  or car i.d.
I have cut and  pasted the car pic on several,  and  cuda hunter  has posted the tag if there is one.
Could someone go clear out all the dead links??
I could forward all the dead links I come across to a moderator,  and you could too.

Quote from: Mr Cuda on August 28, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
I could forward all the dead links I come across to a moderator,  and you could too.

That would be fun!   :Thud:

 So is he banned from posting? It's been days since I've seen anything from him.
Terry W.

Quote from: 71vert340 on September 15, 2022, 06:31:59 AM
So is he banned from posting? It's been days since I've seen anything from him.
Terry W.

Yep he is gone . .

I may be on an island here but I sort of miss seeing what comes up for sale.... I find I don't look on eBay otherwise.  Weird.

 :haha: :haha: yea the people who wanted him banned should surf eBay for us and post the latest E Bodies for sale  :haha: :haha:

Quote from: 70_440-6Cuda on September 17, 2022, 10:44:14 AM
I may be on an island here but I sort of miss seeing what comes up for sale.... I find I don't look on eBay otherwise.  Weird.

Agreed, but not a huge deal.....  :grouphug:

Quote from: anlauto on September 17, 2022, 11:15:06 AM
the people who wanted him banned should surf eBay for us and post the latest E Bodies for sale

Just the opposite.
The people that wanted him banned aren't the ones so interested in all the ebay cars, why would they surf.
The people that wanted him to stay are obviously more interested in the ebay cars, they should surf.
If the latter don't want to use their time to do so, that's on them. Can't expect someone else to do their work for them.
:alan2cents:  :Stirring:  :deadhorse:

I am glad that spam bot is gone. Even if you liked that type of spam...it's still spam. I am here to read what humans have to say, not algorithms.

I am sure if Year One or Roseville started choking the recent posts page with 'items for sale', a discussion would ensue.
Although they pay to be here so not exactly the same I guess.

Quote from: Jay Bee on September 18, 2022, 04:51:49 AM

If the latter don't want to use their time to do so, that's on them. Can't expect someone else to do their work for them.
:alan2cents:  :Stirring:  :deadhorse:

Nah...."bots" exist to do work for us and save us time....they search eBay for us, so we don't have to... :haha: :haha:

Quote from: anlauto on September 18, 2022, 07:53:17 AM
Nah...."bots" exist to do work for us and save us time....they search eBay for us, so we don't have to... :haha: :haha:

True enough, but the original post in this latest string referred to "...the people.."   :cheers: 

Here's idea, let's start a poll of who wants MasonDaniel7 back  :haha: :haha: :haha: