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Title: Dat Ting Gotta Hemi ?
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
I'm currently building a 1970 Charger resto-mod for a customer (yes I know, not an E Body) wasn't too happy painting the car white, even though we went with the newest 2022 Dodge white....


I got pretty happy just now when my body shop sent me these pictures....looks like you could cut bread with those body lines  :wowzers:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Brads70 on November 05, 2022, 02:27:07 PM
Red guts and a red bump stripe? Those are big quarters and take a lot of work to get the body lines nice! Good job!   :drooling:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on November 05, 2022, 02:27:07 PM
Red guts and a red bump stripe? Those are big quarters and take a lot of work to get the body lines nice! Good job!   :drooling:

BLACK....vinyl top, interior, bumble bee stripe, hood stripes  :dunno:  The owner is making a modern version of a car his Father had when he was 16  :yes:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: dodj on November 05, 2022, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
wasn't too happy painting the car white
:huh: It's only the best colour out there!  Maybe I'm biased?....nah.
Charger looks great!
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 07:08:37 PM
Quote from: dodj on November 05, 2022, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
wasn't too happy painting the car white
:huh: It's only the best colour out there!  Maybe I'm biased?....nah.
Charger looks great!

Is white really a "colour" ? :thinking: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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Post by: 70_440-6Cuda on November 07, 2022, 05:46:33 PM
Wow.  That looks amazing!  I had a '69 440-6 waaaaay back in the day and had it painted for $3600 in the original dark green metallic.... those are seriously crisp body lines and I like the white - wouldn't have thought so but it is going to be very very cool.  :worship:

@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) can I ask what does a good paint job like that cost these days?  Assuming no sheet metal replacement and everything lines up marginally well to start with and the car is completely disassembled - I am getting some CRAZY quotes and curious what your experience is - thanks
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 07, 2022, 06:09:17 PM
So, the shop I'm using now, is a guy, a lot like myself, running a small business out of a shop at home. He's done three cars for me so far, and he's currently working on number four (this white 70 Charger) and number five which is a FF4 green AAR Cuda. I will be dropping off number six, a purple Demon in about two weeks when I pick up the Charger.... :)

From bare steel to finished polished paint he's charging me on average $22,000.00 CDN which is about $16,500.00 USD .....
That does not include ANY rust repair... This Charger had over $10K in metal as well
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 07, 2022, 06:27:52 PM
I guess I should mention time frame, that always seems to be a big issue for many shops.

The black car, being the first car Was dropped off March 25th 2021, The two convertibles followed that....

I would say the first four cars were done in 20 months HOWEVER....He goes on vacation for all of July/August 2021 and all of July/Aug 2022, so really the four cars were done in 16 months or an average of 4 months each, which is very respectable. :alan2cents:

I hope that the Demon will be finished before July 2023.....but he also has to finish a 69 Chevelle for one of his buddys
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Post by: 70_440-6Cuda on November 07, 2022, 06:49:54 PM
Alan those are gorgeous, man does that get the blood going!  Very respectable prices and time frame if you ask me.

Thank you for that, very helpful in getting some idea of what I am in for.... Paint and metal fab is something I always wanted to do, but don't have that skill set.  A good paint an bodyan is like a good contractor, when you find one stick with him!
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 07, 2022, 07:06:43 PM
One thing to mention is that I also deliver the cars, totally stripped, already media blasted etc...so those numbers don't include that. He doesn't have to worry about taking the car apart or anything like that, when he gets them, he knows exactly what has to be done and gets to it...likes working on two at a time, taking a break from body work on one to do metal work on the other etc...
We work well together...and I will never give him up.... :haha:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: cudamadd on November 07, 2022, 09:52:24 PM

anlauto  you have an  outstanding body man there . They look fantastic, And with your knowledge and expertise your  finished cars are beautiful.  :australia:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2022, 12:24:14 PM
Thank you, like some shop owners that take all the credit for the work their employees do, I will never take credit for his work, but it sure makes the cars I restore look nice  :drooling:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: blown motor on November 08, 2022, 02:18:18 PM
So he's doing all the metal and body work plus paint and polish, is that right. I'm always wrestling with redoing my Challenger but man that's a lot of cash. Sometimes I think I could sell mine, add half that and be ahead of the game. But, maybe not.
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: 70_440-6Cuda on November 08, 2022, 02:56:03 PM
Most shops around SoCal are not interested in doing restoration type work and just want to crank out marginal insurance work for the masses.  I have been looking around and shops are quoting as much as $60K for a full blown rotisserie paint job with minimal metal replacement - crazy talk around here  :Thud:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: dodj on November 08, 2022, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 07:08:37 PM
Is white really a "colour" ? :thinking: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Well...maybe not depending how you look at it. But if you believe white is not a colour, then neither is black.... :P

And both of them look better than all of the others!  lol  :yes:   Right Murray?
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2022, 03:37:00 PM
Quote from: blown motor on November 08, 2022, 02:18:18 PM
So he's doing all the metal and body work plus paint and polish, is that right. I'm always wrestling with redoing my Challenger but man that's a lot of cash. Sometimes I think I could sell mine, add half that and be ahead of the game. But, maybe not.

Yes, he does it all in house....for years I used Keith Sim for metal work, but he's moved away and basically semi-retired so it's no longer reasonable to spilt up the work load...

To take your Challenger down to a complete bare shell and redo everything, you're at least $40K just for body and paint (including taking it apart, blasting, reassembly etc...) and likely another $40K in everything else  :))
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 02, 2022, 05:38:24 PM
Well 617 days later and they have finished the fourth car for me  :banana: I had this delivered today....Now the fun starts :wrenching:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 02, 2022, 05:40:48 PM
The owner wanted the stripes under the clear, so that's why they're so shiny....it's a resto-mod so it doesn't really matter I guess :dunno:
Original U Code RT/SE 1970 Charger
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Brads70 on December 02, 2022, 06:14:48 PM
Looks great!  Amazing to see how much the hood springs "spring" when the hood is closed. Not a view many get to see.
But someone is pretty " brave?" moving it around on a dolly on gravel?  :o
Looks like a disaster  in waiting? Could have ended ugly!
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 02, 2022, 06:40:08 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on December 02, 2022, 06:14:48 PM

But someone is pretty " brave?" moving it around on a dolly on gravel?  :o
Looks like a disaster  in waiting? Could have ended ugly!

Wasn't going fast enough to get stone chips....LOL :haha: :haha: :haha:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Blowout on December 03, 2022, 01:32:43 PM
Looks really nice.  Can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Brads70 on December 03, 2022, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: anlauto on December 02, 2022, 06:40:08 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on December 02, 2022, 06:14:48 PM

But someone is pretty " brave?" moving it around on a dolly on gravel?  :o
Looks like a disaster  in waiting? Could have ended ugly!

Wasn't going fast enough to get stone chips....LOL :haha: :haha: :haha:

Oh, well if that was me , almost for sure it would dig in and flip over ....... my kinda luck usually....
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: RUNCHARGER on December 03, 2022, 02:38:47 PM
Yep: I can relate Brad. Loading this and the left rear caster caught while rolling onto the beavertail and bent the spring mount on the body back a bit. Easy to fix with 5lb sledge but unusual crap always has a way of happening.
Then on the trip up from Seattle the beavertail extension fell off the hinge and dented up the trunk lid where the butt stripe is. I mean that happens to everybody right? I was lucky I had extra paint though I suppose.
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 03, 2022, 04:54:54 PM
 I designed the carts I use back in 1993.....I've had literally dozens of cars on my carts, never had an issue with anything falling off or cars tipping over  :dunno: the sandblast places usually pick the cars up with forklifts etc...never an issue :twothumbsup:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: jimynick on December 03, 2022, 07:27:47 PM
Alan, I think, and suspect you already know, that the lads are talking about pulling/pushing short wheelbase carts across gravel and their propensity to dig in a leg, or two, and if that happens nobody will be happy. I'm glad to hear that you've run between the raindrops, so to speak, all these years.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 03, 2022, 07:35:19 PM
It's not quicksand, it's the guy's driveway....I would say it's pretty hard packed :dunno: I've never even considered they would ever be an issue :clueless:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Marty on December 03, 2022, 11:04:42 PM
That Charger is clean looking for sure, very nice work but that black '71 Challenger is just stunning!  :perfect10:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 04, 2022, 06:47:54 AM
Quote from: Marty on December 03, 2022, 11:04:42 PM
That Charger is clean looking for sure, very nice work but that black '71 Challenger is just stunning!  :perfect10:

Thanks....
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on December 04, 2022, 05:41:15 PM
Every vehicle in this thread is very colorful and very nice.  Several asked about White as a color.   Yes it is, however think about it.........Black is the absence of color!
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Racer57 on December 04, 2022, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 07:08:37 PM
Quote from: dodj on November 05, 2022, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 05, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
wasn't too happy painting the car white
:huh: It's only the best colour out there!  Maybe I'm biased?....nah.
Charger looks great!

Is white really a "colour" ? :thinking: :haha: :haha: :haha:
White is as much a COLOR as COLOR is spelled without an U.  :D    :D
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: dodj on December 05, 2022, 06:34:03 AM
Quote from: Racer57 on December 04, 2022, 07:30:08 PM

White is as much a COLOR as COLOR is spelled without an U.  :D    :D
Who would spell colour without a 'U'?  :huh:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 05, 2022, 07:55:50 AM
Quote from: dodj on December 05, 2022, 06:34:03 AM
Quote from: Racer57 on December 04, 2022, 07:30:08 PM

White is as much a COLOR as COLOR is spelled without an U.  :D    :D
Who would spell colour without a 'U'?  :huh:
I heard a rumour that those American's don't favour the letter U, guess we'll have to honour that  :dunno: :P
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: Jay Bee on December 05, 2022, 08:45:46 AM
May this put it to rest...

https://qz.com/596395/the-case-of-the-missing-us-in-american-english
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: dodj on December 05, 2022, 08:34:49 PM
Not sure about clearing it up....someone's gonna think I'm spelling centre wrong...lol :P
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Post by: blown motor on December 06, 2022, 08:25:24 AM
Quote from: dodj on December 05, 2022, 08:34:49 PM
Not sure about clearing it up....someone's gonna think I'm spelling centre wrong...lol :P

:haha:
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Post by: blown motor on December 06, 2022, 08:31:10 AM
Further to all that, I can't believe Samuel Johnson spelled "domestick" wrong.  :stop:
Title: Re: Sharp as a razor...
Post by: anlauto on December 06, 2022, 12:46:46 PM
Now the fun starts
Title: Re: Dat Ting Gotta Hemi ?
Post by: anlauto on December 23, 2022, 01:39:08 PM
Three weeks into the assembly, going well...unfortunate my upholstery guy is too busy to do the top