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Technical Shop => Tools and Equipment => Topic started by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 08:37:53 AM

Title: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 08:37:53 AM
I really need this  book as I never took the car apart. Does anyone have the book " guide to ebody fasteners " I can't spend the big bucks they ask for this book. I was hoping someone has it downloaded on line or a copy they can send out and I can make a copy of it? One of  the Internet would be the best.
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 05, 2017, 08:42:20 AM
I've got that book and it comes in handy.  There's no perfect book, but David Wise does a good job getting as close as he can to perfect.

Is he selling a digital version yet?  Maybe it's only hard copies right now?
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: DetMatt on February 05, 2017, 08:51:34 AM
A close friend lent a copy to me while I did an underhood resto and complete drivetrain rebuild on my vert last year and it came in handy. I couldn't imagine what it would take to digitize that big book as a favor.
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: anlauto on February 05, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Just ask your questions on here....I have a copy of that book, but I've probably only looked at in twice... :huh:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 09:00:03 AM
It's nice to have a hard copy in the shop. It's all the little bolts I'm not sure about. Like the ones that hold the headlight bucket mounts to the radiator support on a 71 Cuda.  There a small bolt with a big washer. Also can't find out how the L bracket is from there to the support as well. Does it go on  the outside or inside of the plate. Little things would come in handy
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 05, 2017, 09:23:06 AM
The book doesn't help with how things go together, just sizes and types of fasteners used.  No part numbers (if I recall correctly) so it really works best if you already have a bunch of nuts and bolts and need help identifying them.

One the best people in the world to learn about how things go together is probably Alan.  I've learned a lot from him and he freely answers pretty much any question.   :alan2cents:

Quote from: anlauto on February 05, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Just ask your questions on here....I have a copy of that book, but I've probably only looked at in twice... :huh:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
Perfect. He has helped me in the past.....and I'm sure alot more in the future!
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: anlauto on February 05, 2017, 11:10:53 AM
@Shoooter (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13) @Cuda Cody (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1) 
For example:

On a 1971 Cuda the headlight mounting plates require: (16) 1/4-20 X 1" bolts with a 1" spin washer, (4) 1/4-20 clip nuts, (4) 1/4-20 Nuts with 1/2" spin washer.

These bolts are the exact same as the ones used to mount the rad.

The two "L" brackets, one long, one short per side attach to the mounting plate with the clip nuts/bolts. Clip nuts on the mounting plate. The other end mounts to the rad support with the nut/bolts with the nuts on the engine side.
Ther rest of the bolts go into the weld nuts on the fenders.
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 05, 2017, 11:23:08 AM
 :worship:  @anlauto (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19) 
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: anlauto on February 05, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
 :toast:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: kdcarman on February 05, 2017, 12:41:21 PM
Alan has the entire book already in his head.  :)
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 02:38:07 PM
Is this the correct way for the L bracket or does it go on the inside. Also is there any place that sells those bolts in Canada alan?
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: anlauto on February 05, 2017, 03:25:12 PM
Well....That's not how I've seen them mounted in the past, but obviously that way works too. I just it would have been up to the line worker that day.

In Canada you could try Nigel Mills at National Moparts ? I don't know if there is a "kit" ? I buy my hardware in bulk from R/T Specialities  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: jimynick on February 05, 2017, 07:49:56 PM
Spae Naur in Kitchener, Ontario are a pretty good source and I believe you can see their catalogue online as well. They also carry rubber goods and other things and I'm sure they'd ship. Not in BC, but the best I could do.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on February 05, 2017, 08:47:25 PM
I collect fasteners as wrong ones drive me nuts. If I don't have a correct one we have a PicnPull here that I scour. They generally don't have old Mopar cars but they usually have old Dodge Vans and Pick ups.
When a hood is popped, rad caps, rad tanks, fasteners and wiper motors hit you before you check anything else out I find.

Sheldon
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 05, 2017, 10:06:32 PM
Do you put the L bracket behind the headlight plate a pose to how it is in the picture?
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 05:25:18 AM
The clip nuts go on the headlight mounting plate, the brackets go on the outside or "on top" of the mounting plate.
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: fc7cuda on February 06, 2017, 05:36:19 AM
I've not seen this book available digitally and we may not.  It would be alot easier to mass distribute on the secondary market resulting in no additional income for Dave.  I've never seen a digital version of Galen's white books either and they've been out for years.

Perhaps down the road things will change.... :dunno:

Tom
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: rhamson on February 06, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
Pay the man his money. He did all the work to collect the information.

http://shop.mmcdetroit.com/products/mmc-detroit-e-body-fastener-manual-1970-74-fastener-manual-fme-1
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: headejm on February 06, 2017, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: rhamson on February 06, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
Pay the man his money. He did all the work to collect the information.

http://shop.mmcdetroit.com/products/mmc-detroit-e-body-fastener-manual-1970-74-fastener-manual-fme-1

:iagree: Not to mention copyright laws. I for one, appreciate the work Dave has done for our hobby.
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: rhamson on February 06, 2017, 01:37:05 PM
I have the book and it is invaluable for identifying, buying and in many cases location where nuts and bolts go information. It is the best money I have spent besides the chassis and body manuals and I am just doing a restomod.  :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: realn96 on February 07, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
Quote from: rhamson on February 06, 2017, 01:37:05 PM
I have the book and it is invaluable for identifying, buying and in many cases location where nuts and bolts go information. It is the best money I have spent besides the chassis and body manuals and I am just doing a restomod.  :drinkingbud:

:iagree:   The two books Dave sells , "for E bodys"  are the first two items I bought after buying the car!  HUGE books! can't  Imagine him ever putting it on a cd. You would be on the computer for weeks!. Buy the book , you won't be sorry!
Title: Re: Guide to e body fasteners?
Post by: Shoooter on February 07, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
I'll see if I can find a used one out there. Seems like it could help me