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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2017, 09:22:49 AM »
That would make good sense.  Without the hardener it will be easier to the exhaust to burn off.  And you are right, the factory painted engine with the exhaust manifolds in place so they got over spray on them.  It ends up burning off and looking dirty so I paint mine with a high temp cast paint to protect them from rust.  But for shows and judging I would be dinged points for doing it that way.  The way you did it sounds great.  The only thing a judge might say (and just depends how good of a judge it is) would be that the nuts that hold the manifolds on should be painted orange too.  But that is being pretty picky and would really only come up if you were going for a OEM gold level restoration.

Thank for the suggestion about not adding hardener.   :slapme5:

I'm going to throw this out here for discussion. When the shop that is doing my restoration was painting my engine they painted the exhaust manifold separate from the engine and when they painted the manifolds they didn't use any hardner in the paint. The reason they told me is that hardner causes the paint to burn off faster, I have not started my engine since it has been painted so I don't have any first hand evidence that this is true. I plan on taking my car to a couple of shows to be judged thats why we painted the manifolds orange other wise they would have been painted with a high temp cast paint. Has any one else heard or done this?

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2017, 03:32:04 PM »
Will post some pics when it's done. Really appreciate all of the help!

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2017, 08:07:51 PM »
I went back and forth about painting the exhaust manifolds on my build and I finally decided to spray engine color while bolted on but I did however spray and bake them with Seymour 1200 degree cast blast as a base. I like the way the orange burnt off leaving a nice looking protected finish.

More will burn off but I feel optimistic that the Seymour will protect them from rust for a good while.

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2017, 11:10:49 PM »
WOW!!!!  Aar1064 that looks about as great as you could ever want.  Nicely done.   :bravo:

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2017, 04:50:20 AM »
WOW!!!!  Aar1064 that looks about as great as you could ever want.  Nicely done.   :bravo:

Thanks Cody. Fingers crossed that it holds up well.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2017, 07:17:45 AM »
I ceramic coat the manifolds with cast grey, supposed to NEVER rust again. Then I paint them orange. :alan2cents:
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2017, 08:23:32 PM »
I know I'm responding to an old post here, forgive me, but we are getting ready to paint 2 engines and I was researching here.  We will be shooting a 70 440 U code and a TA engine.  Here are a couple questions.
Fuel Pump?
440 on the motor
340 off
Dip stick and tube?
440 Tube natural and dipstick handle orange.  [that makes no sense but it's what the judge manual says]
340 Tube orange and  handle black
Motor mount brackets-The manual says the hardware, bolts nuts and washers, were zinc. Is that right?
Also Cody, I saw your six pack lid hanging in your paint booth. Did you paint that the same shade as the engine.
I guess I'm asking what was original and also what the judges will say?


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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 08:00:01 AM »
Unless you have an original car that you can document and duplicate the answers to your questions will vary depending on who is the judge.  Ask Dave Walden who started with a 100% original vehicle and used it as the template to restore the car.  Then he has it judged and some judges still gave him a hard time with how he did it.  He had to have the original photos to back up everything he did.  So if you do not have an original untouched car to use as the guide for the restoration then it's going to come down to who is going to be judging it.  Because judges change from one event to another you could be chasing a moving target.

Also, I would not use my cars as guides because I do not restore mine to have them judged.  I do things the best I can and to a quality level and durability level that is often much higher then the factory.  I like my cars to looks stock and hold up for a long time. 


I know I'm responding to an old post here, forgive me, but we are getting ready to paint 2 engines and I was researching here.  We will be shooting a 70 440 U code and a TA engine.  Here are a couple questions.
Fuel Pump?
440 on the motor
340 off
Dip stick and tube?
440 Tube natural and dipstick handle orange.  [that makes no sense but it's what the judge manual says]
340 Tube orange and  handle black
Motor mount brackets-The manual says the hardware, bolts nuts and washers, were zinc. Is that right?
Also Cody, I saw your six pack lid hanging in your paint booth. Did you paint that the same shade as the engine.
I guess I'm asking what was original and also what the judges will say?

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