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Started by 70_440-6Cuda, August 30, 2022, 01:02:18 PM

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70_440-6Cuda

I have a friend is pulling out his 440 6 bbl engine and swapping for a Hemi and am thinking about picking it up if the price is right.  Thinking about swapping it into my '70 while I rebuild my original engine so I can take my time and still be up and running.  I want to be fair and have a figure in mind but have no clue if it is realistic.  The engine pulls strong, sounds good at idle, no smoke or issues.  Engine is a complete long block, has correct 6 bbl heads and balancer, a holly 4 bbl on it with MSD distributor, no pulleys.  Supposed to have relatively low mileage, but cannot confirm rebuild status or age.

I could not get the VIN, but the stamp on the distributor pad is E440; 3 7 3 HP.  Casting on the side of the block is 1.14.69, 2536430-5.

There is no history on the engine, so obviously no guarantee it doesn't grenade in the first 100 miles.  Just wondering what a reasonable price would be and opinions / information on what to look for other than what I have listed.  Thanks

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JS29

If it's still in a vehicle,  do a compresses test. you could put a mechanical gauge were the oil pressure sending unit go's and that will give you an idea of it's value is.   :alan2cents:   

Mr Cuda

I guess my question is...
Is it a 69 440 with a six pack, or a heavy rod 6 pack motor?
To my knowledge, there is no 6 pack heads.


70vert

Quote from: Mr Cuda on August 30, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
I guess my question is...
Is it a 69 440 with a six pack, or a heavy rod 6 pack motor?
To my knowledge, there is no 6 pack heads.

Agree, an HP block is the same whether six pack or not. Probably really need the VIN stamping to get a good value.

6bblgt

there wasn't much different for a '69 440+6 engine VS a '69 440HP engine that wouldn't be discarded in a rebuild: cam/lifters/springs (besides the intake/carbs/air cleaner)

the parts that were different were the same castings/forgings with different treatments/machining: no heavy rods, no different balancer, no big oil pan - those didn't happen until 1970 model year

the stamped VIN would confirm 1969 A12 origins

70_440-6Cuda

All,

Thanks for the input - learning as always!  Just to be clear, my friend is not claiming it is anything special, said it was out of an original 6 pack car, but the six pack manifold and carbs etc. are long gone, so really it is just a '69 440 HP that was rebuilt at some point and "feels" like it is a strong motor.  Assuming compression test is good, I guess I am just looking for a ball park figure.  He said the VIN stamp starts with 9B or 90 but cant see the rest.

 


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6bblgt

all 1969 440 3x2bbl cars (A12 Road Runner & Super Bee ONLY) & engines came from Lynch Rd. "9A"
"9B" would be a Charger R/T (Daytona) or one of the 440 A-bodies (GTS or 'cuda)
"9C" or "9D" would be from a C-body


70_440-6Cuda

He said definitely 9B. Anybody hazarding a guess how much it would be worth?  Considering I am seeing bare blocks selling around $1500-2K I am guessing it would be more than that for a complete running engine, but how much more is the question???   :dunno:
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Fastmark

I build engines, sell lots of blocks and know several people looking for 69 HP blocks. That engine is probably a $3000 engine at the least. If it runs good, maybe more.

70_440-6Cuda

Thanks for the input, appreciated - he is going to pull a compression test and said he is going to advertise at $5k OBO and see what happens - a little steep for my purposes.  Personally I think he would take $4000-4500 but who knows.  If anyone is interested PM me and I will send his info along - thanks
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