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Wiper motor not lining up to linkage

Started by GoMangoBoys, March 12, 2023, 06:07:26 PM

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Quote from: GoMangoBoys on March 23, 2023, 05:23:58 PM
One other observation.  The firewall sheet metal has some puckering under the wiper motor.  Is this normal or is this an indication of possible collision damage? Maybe the motor is not in the right place compared to the pivot mounts.

I've seen some unrestored firewalls that looked really straight & clean, and others that had wrinkles that at first glance give the impression the car was in an accident, but really was just the way it was built.

I would think for the car to have taken a big enough whack that it knocked the cowl & wipers out of alignment you would have had more problems with panel alignment or visible frame rail damage.

On the wiper linkage that came out of my R/T the bushing was seriously egg shaped from wear, I have another from a parts car that is pristine and barely shows any wear. Build quality a factor? Or just normal wear & tear. :dunno:

I wonder too if whoever restored the motor put it back together slightly out of sync or whatever, if that's possible. No idea. 

It would be nice to try another motor and see if there's any difference.

Jay Bee

Seems we were in our garages at the same time. Then I had the infamous "site slowdown" when I first tried to post this.
The picture is with it in PARK, clip removed and the 293 slide right off.

My YouTube video of my crank in motion. Yours IS working perfectly.


Just had another thought. Are you 100% sure your motor is properly seated to the cowel and it's not cockeyed somehow. My memory isn't what it used to be but I think I recall a time when I bolted a motor to the car and things didn't line up. I completely backed off the 3 nuts and Jiggled it around and it ended up seating correctly. And, back then, from the outside it looked fine and seemed to bolt down fine. Maybe now that all your linkages are on unbolt the motor and see if something gives then bolt it back.

GoMangoBoys

Thank you @Jay Bee for confirming my video.  I did in fact try to relocate the motor.  I have had it in and out now a few times doing the re-clocking.  I will have to do this one more time to put it back in the E-body position.  It is pretty close now and DOES fit, but I feel binds when it parks, so I think I am going to shorten the 293 link about 1/4" and move on.  I am feeling more and more confident that WE (me and all of you) have exhausted all other likely solutions.
I do truly appreciate the help that all of you have given on this.


Jay Bee

I wish this could have been figured out. Frustrates me too, obviously not as much as you though. Did someone straighten out the bend the 293 a bit at one time? Damn, I just can't let it go   :Thud:  :bricks: 

anlauto

I wouldn't cut anything, put the crank arm on the transmission arm first, then try attaching to the wiper motor :alan2cents:
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GoMangoBoys

@anlauto  I did that.  It does connect and it does work.  It just binds really bad when it goes to park.  I k ow this will cause premature wear on the parts and bushings.

anlauto

It's not supposed to have any play in it...I would try running it first, before I would cut anything :alan2cents:

You must planon doing a lot of driving in the rain if you're worried about wearing out the parts :huh:
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GoMangoBoys

@anlauto   Trailers are for boats.  :)  We drive our cars here.  in 2021, I drove my 57 Chevy from here to Gulfport Ms for Cruisin the Coast.  1000 miles each way. 

GoMangoBoys

So, good, bad, or otherwise, I shortened the 293 linkage.  It seems to work much better now.  My current problem is that this has been apart for a long time and I cannot find the last clip to clip the 293 linkage to the crank arm.  Ugh!  I guess I will need to buy one.

anlauto

It'll be curious to see how this woks, because when the crank arm gets to the other side the transmission arm is now going to be too short  :thinking:
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Jay Bee

That's what I was starting to question last night before I experienced "SS" (site slowdown). So, yeah, I wonder if the blades will give the full sweep from the stops on the stainless steel to the A pillar stainless.


GoMangoBoys

I am about 99.999% sure that this shortening of the linkage will not matter in the sweep of the blades.  The distance that the blades travel is dictated by the length of the moment arm of the 2822289 crank.  Shortening the 293 linkage is just an offset.  Once the wiper arms are attached in the right place, there will be no difference.  If I shortened the 293 linkage AFTER the wiper arms were attached, then they would have to be adjusted.

GoMangoBoys

I wanted to make some follow-up comments now that the wiper linkage situation is fixed.  I was waiting for one last clip before I could really run it and take a video.  Here is the video of it running. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY1FEUfBG3M

I do not have the windshield in yet, so I cannot really run it with the wipers on.  I did put on the driver's side temporarily and carefully ran it.  I pulled the cable off of the battery so that I could stop it at the farthest point in the sweep to verify that I am getting a full sweep on the wiper.  The pictures show the wiper arm in the parked position (at least where I think it goes when parked). Then I ran it and tried to stop it at the furthest point in the sweep.  I actually stopped it a little short.  It goes about 1/4 inch further than what is shown in the picture.

anlauto

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