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1970 Challenger A66 weight....I know it for a fact now!

Started by kawahonda, May 11, 2019, 01:08:28 PM

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kawahonda

I've seen pretty wide ranges on 340 Challenger weights. The common range that you will read is 3400-3800. So what is it exactly?

Truth is, that's a very accurate range. A 1970 Challenger could very much weigh 3400 with a slant six, small tires, no accessories. While a 1970 Challenger with a big block, loaded with accessories, could very much weight 3800lbs.

Went to the local dump today. They were so happy to see the car...told me to roll right on through and got VIP service at no cost! That includes two weigh-ins.

A 1970 A66 Challenger w/ 727, Sure-grip style rear end, power steering, bone stock otherwise w/ 3/4 gas tank and full size spare w/ jack & hardware is 3,535lbs.

Sticky it...it is now known for sure!

I'm not at all surprised by this. I had a hunch that she feels like a 3,500lb car. I only know going in that it was going to be around that number.

A nice mid-weight muscle car. Not a heavy weight, but not a light weight either. I'd guess with an aluminum intake & water pump she'd be in the upper 3,400 range as equipped.
1970 Dodge Challenger A66

70 Challenger Lover

AC with HD cooling would certainly add some weight. I suppose it the car was really loaded down with lots of options, it could approach that 3800 mark.

Chryco Psycho

My 70 Chall 440 4spd R/T SE weighs 3560
my 74 chall 340 4spd with a lot of weight removed weighed 3840


Katfish

Good info, double checking, that's just the car?
You weren't in it?

kawahonda

#4
Just the car and keys. I subtracted myself, my girlfriend, and any other object that were in it.

And yes, we were scientific. I forced us to get on a scale, and I weighed out objects that are not part of the car (our selves, clothing, sunglasses, bag of groceries, fire extinguisher, etc).

1970 Dodge Challenger A66

RUNCHARGER

Quite a few options. Weighed it with shaker (later than this photo), dana 60, iron 426 Hemi. Right at 3830lbs. Exactly 4000lbs race weight.
Sheldon

kawahonda

My race weight would be 3535 + 218 + 5 = 3758.

I notice that the torque takes a hit when I have a car load of people. That's easily pushing over 2 tons.
1970 Dodge Challenger A66


Chryco Psycho


kawahonda

#8
Pictures (combine them) showing scale. 3940.

Me (220) + GF + other stuff in car were weighed out with my very accurate scale and subtracted.

That's full fluids of all types like windshield washer tank (and a 4 piece set of carpet mats which I didn't weigh out nor rubber trunk mat— not significant). My spare tire is a full size one, not the space saver. I have some helpers springs as well, but likely not significant.

3500 lb car, they were, with the 727!

Still possible for mid 13s whilst looking very reasonably factory on radials?
1970 Dodge Challenger A66

bennydodge

According to Bandimere Speedway's scale my '73 comes in at 3668 lbs with driver and a 1/2 tank of fuel. Just about what I expected.
1973 Challenger 340
2015 Challenger R/T classic B5, wife's car
2010 Dodge 3500 dually
2016 Hellcat Challenger Redline Red A8

Flatdad

Quote from: kawahonda on May 11, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
I've seen pretty wide ranges on 340 Challenger weights. The common range that you will read is 3400-3800. So what is it exactly?

Truth is, that's a very accurate range. A 1970 Challenger could very much weigh 3400 with a slant six, small tires, no accessories. While a 1970 Challenger with a big block, loaded with accessories, could very much weight 3800lbs.

Went to the local dump today. They were so happy to see the car...told me to roll right on through and got VIP service at no cost! That includes two weigh-ins.

A 1970 A66 Challenger w/ 727, Sure-grip style rear end, power steering, bone stock otherwise w/ 3/4 gas tank and full size spare w/ jack & hardware is 3,535lbs.

Sticky it...it is now known for sure!

I'm not at all surprised by this. I had a hunch that she feels like a 3,500lb car. I only know going in that it was going to be around that number.

A nice mid-weight muscle car. Not a heavy weight, but not a light weight either. I'd guess with an aluminum intake & water pump she'd be in the upper 3,400 range as equipped.

An old Direct Connection manual from '67 said removing the undercoating was worth 80lbs! that would be for a b-body, but its worth noting.

Is your car undercoated? That would be an important sidenote for folks comparing their weight to yours.


kawahonda

#11
Interesting. Yep, my car is under coated. I would highly doubt that it's adding 60-80 lbs though...or anywhere close to that!
1970 Dodge Challenger A66

3.0CSL

Quote from: kawahonda on May 11, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
I've seen pretty wide ranges on 340 Challenger weights. The common range that you will read is 3400-3800. So what is it exactly?

Truth is, that's a very accurate range. A 1970 Challenger could very much weigh 3400 with a slant six, small tires, no accessories. While a 1970 Challenger with a big block, loaded with accessories, could very much weight 3800lbs.

Went to the local dump today. They were so happy to see the car...told me to roll right on through and got VIP service at no cost! That includes two weigh-ins.

A 1970 A66 Challenger w/ 727, Sure-grip style rear end, power steering, bone stock otherwise w/ 3/4 gas tank and full size spare w/ jack & hardware is 3,535lbs.

Sticky it...it is now known for sure!

I'm not at all surprised by this. I had a hunch that she feels like a 3,500lb car. I only know going in that it was going to be around that number.

A nice mid-weight muscle car. Not a heavy weight, but not a light weight either. I'd guess with an aluminum intake & water pump she'd be in the upper 3,400 range as equipped.

That is 1603 KGs. ( In Blighty, lbs were dropped some time ago for kgs )
My old 2003 E46 M3 six speed car, weighed about 1560kgs, my 98 TVR Griffith 500 weighs nowt @ just 1060kgs.
Does anyone know what a 70 Challenger R/T SE 383 Magnum Auto, with PAS and air con is likely to weigh ?

kawahonda

#13
At least 3700 without a sliver of a doubt. Just do some simple math, assuming "PAS" means power steering....:

3500lbs is Challenger 340 Auto w/ PS. A66 Challenger is essentially an R/T with a 340 (has same large drums, torsion bars, etc).

+ 100 lbs for 383 vs 340 (documented).
+ ~100 lbs for any SE stuff and A/C

~ 3700lbs is my guess, and I bet I'm not off by much. I don't know how much A/C weighs, but I'm assuming condensor + brackets + fan + housing is an easy 50 lbs. The SE has more "stuff" that I wouldn't assume is all that much heavier, but it may all add up to 50 lbs additional.

Those with a 440 will have to +50lbs.

I heard that there's another scale that's actually very close to my house....I plan to stop by there next week to compare against the dump scale. 3500 for an A66 makes complete sense though. Don't forget that the A66 has the heavy-duty stuff that the 383 R/T has....
1970 Dodge Challenger A66

Katfish

I would guess AC adds ~75lbs.
Pic shows difference when I did Sandan compressor swap.
You need to add brackets, lines, condenser and extra weight for evaporator and misc stuff inside the car.