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« on: October 21, 2020, 07:23:48 PM »
Now that all of my panels are in high build primer I will be starting a mock reassembly for block sanding. The question is though what do yíall use for weight to get the 52 pounds for the doors? Iím really not trying to spend nearly 100 dollars on some chain that Iíll use once. Lol

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2020, 07:33:50 PM »
I have some filled sand bags and they work great.  No mess and they will conform to what you need them to. 

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2020, 09:01:43 PM »
My son brought over some of his weight lifting weights. We wired them together once in the door and there's been no issues since. For what it's worth.  :cheers:
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2020, 10:00:55 PM »
Don't buy dead weight. Just look around your garage... There's weight everywhere.  And if you can't find enough, just use rocks from outside. Your door don't care as long as you get some kind of weight in it.  Other ideas you might find around your garage, tow hitches, snow chains, bricks, sand, steel scrap metal, bottle jacks, bags of old bolts, ect.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2020, 05:55:34 AM »
Don't buy dead weight. Just look around your garage... There's weight everywhere.  And if you can't find enough, just use rocks from outside. Your door don't care as long as you get some kind of weight in it.  Other ideas you might find around your garage, tow hitches, snow chains, bricks, sand, steel scrap metal, bottle jacks, bags of old bolts, ect.

My door cares damnit! It was on the Christmas list to Santa  :haha: :rofl:

On a serious note, idk why I didnít think of sand bags 🤦🏻‍♂️

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 07:10:07 AM »
In a past life I worked in the entertainment industry and we were always setting up stages and sets and had hundreds of those sand bags I still have about 6 that made it in my truck.  The great thing is they weight about 20 lbs. a piece don't leak and have sewn in handles.  I use them for many different projects around the house.  I had more but when I moved I cut them let out the sand and tossed them.  Which I still had more but room is always an issue.  The best part is no scratching. I've seen them on Amazon you just need to add the sand. Good luck

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 08:13:08 PM »
The Canadian way would be to put about 2 cases of beer in that door and by the time you 'er right, both you AND the door would be adjusted 'bout right!  :cheers:

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 11:03:23 PM »
So.. Where in the door do you place the weight?  Cause if you put it more of it at the hinge end it won't do much...  If you put more of it at the latch end it'll do quite a bit...

If you simply don't put weight in the door but instead intentionally adjust the door about 3/16" high at the hinge end when you assemble the door it will hang just as it should....

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2020, 05:15:33 AM »
The two case of beer method works, but I find the melting ice makes a mess and by the time you're finished the job, the empty cans don't weigh as much as they did when full :alan2cents:

The "just adjust the door 3/16" higher" works well when you're finished all your body work, but I don't understand if you set the door 3/16" higher at first, how would you block sand all the body lines correctly ?

It's pretty obvious the weight has to be distributed evenly along the bottom of the door....Try tube socks filled with sand, dirt, gravel, whatever you might have laying around outback...tip: Don't use the wife's socks. :bigthumb:
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2020, 06:10:20 AM »
I had one friend hang his weight from the bottom of the door completely out of the way in installing the window.  Although he go so excited  that the one side went so well he went to shut the door with the weight still attached.  Luckily he caught it in time. 

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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2020, 09:32:30 AM »
I like the door to sag so it mimics weight in the door.  I put the weight about equally along the bottom of the inside of the door.

While doing an adjustment up exactly 3/16" will work, however I've found the weight method works best because each hinge (rebuilt, or used) will "sag" differently.  By using weight in the door right from the start you are assured the best possible panel alignments.  :alan2cents:  But if you don't have weight, the raising it up method works good too.  But make sure you do one method or the other or it will make more work later to get everything lined up after paint.

So.. Where in the door do you place the weight?  Cause if you put it more of it at the hinge end it won't do much...  If you put more of it at the latch end it'll do quite a bit...

If you simply don't put weight in the door but instead intentionally adjust the door about 3/16" high at the hinge end when you assemble the door it will hang just as it should....

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2020, 03:14:08 PM »
So.. Where in the door do you place the weight?  Cause if you put it more of it at the hinge end it won't do much...  If you put more of it at the latch end it'll do quite a bit...

If you simply don't put weight in the door but instead intentionally adjust the door about 3/16" high at the hinge end when you assemble the door it will hang just as it should....

Isnít there also a method you use as far as leaving one hinge attached to the car with just the pin knocked out so that when reattaching everything itíll line right back up to where you had it?

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2020, 04:22:50 PM »
So.. Where in the door do you place the weight?  Cause if you put it more of it at the hinge end it won't do much...  If you put more of it at the latch end it'll do quite a bit...

If you simply don't put weight in the door but instead intentionally adjust the door about 3/16" high at the hinge end when you assemble the door it will hang just as it should....

Isnít there also a method you use as far as leaving one hinge attached to the car with just the pin knocked out so that when reattaching everything itíll line right back up to where you had it?

YES, that method was described and preferred by member HEMICUDA.
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