2021 state of play - 1970 Challenger values

[Bad Bird]

Hi All,

Thanks again for the warm welcome to the forum!  Cutting straight to the chase, I have been wanting to purchase a 1970 Challenger R/T hardtop with a 4-speed for about 20 years, and only now does that feel achievable. I have owned/restored other cars before (Aussie Fords, Holdens, and Brand-X), but this would be my first Mopar.

Thanks to COVID, I no longer have any idea where prices are sitting these days. The Hemmings price guides just seem a little optimistic to me; I think that the real prices are definitely higher than Hemmings report. Could anyone here help give an approximate price range for a '70 R/T 383 4-speed with and without original motor? I don't really care about numbers matching, and I am fine with any color.  I do know that color and options make a big difference, but I'm wanting to see if approximately $50,000 could even get you close for a NOM, driver-quality car.

Thanks again!
-Matt B.

[ledphoot]

I was looking at e-body's as comps for insurance purposes and I would agree that prices have gone up just like everything else. I'd say you're looking at more around $60K for a nice example right now. The closest thing I found to what you're looking for on eBay is a ragtop, which may be nice, but the price is reflected in that

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304186857793?hash=item46d2f31941:g:FY4AAOSwdDRhSyMd

[ledphoot]

A few that I found.. Prices are high though...


https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1531748/1970-dodge-challenger-for-sale-in-morgantown-pennsylvania-19543

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1488205/1970-dodge-challenger-for-sale-in-o-fallon-illinois-62269

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1448520/1970-dodge-challenger-r-t-for-sale-in-roebuck-south-carolina-29376

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1533201/1970-dodge-challenger-for-sale-in-morgantown-pennsylvania-19543

[Skdmark]

$50k USD for a 70 383 4spd Challenger R/T should be doable for a turn key driver.
Asking prices will probably range from 40k to 60k depending on condition, color, originality and options.

[Bad Bird]

$50k USD for a 70 383 4spd Challenger R/T should be doable for a turn key driver.
Asking prices will probably range from 40k to 60k depending on condition, color, originality and options.

At least I'm not completely barking up the wrong bush then! I could probably stretch as far as 52-53k USD, but after that the brutal reality of a bad exchange rate (~0.7 USD per AUD), freight, GST, import fees, luxury car tax) mean that prices just get completely out of hand.

I was looking at e-body's as comps for insurance purposes and I would agree that prices have gone up just like everything else. I'd say you're looking at more around $60K for a nice example right now.

It's amazing the price range I've noticed these cars can have. It seems like options mean everything...

Potentially I'll have to settle for a non-R/T, but it would then definitely have to be in great shape and be a 4-speed!

[ledphoot]

I know many will take offense to this.. but it's just my opinion. I wouldn't own an e-body with an automatic.

[blown motor]

I prefer an automatic. To each their own.

[Bad Bird]

Agreed. Automatics are great, and for my overlanding truck (2012 Toyota Prado turbodiesel) I wouldn't want anything else. However, when I make that 20 year Challenger dream come true I want to be rowing a pistol-grip 4-speed!

[ledphoot]

I prefer an automatic. To each their own.

The beauty of free will, liberty and available options

My truck and daily driver are automatics. I learned to drive in this Cuda with the pistol grip four speed so it just seems like that's how they should be to me.

To the OP I hope you find your dream Challenger and get it down to Oz. That's be an incredible achievement and a dream come true. If I see anything out there I will post it up.

[70vert]

Premium priced, and 340:
https://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/STL/8705/1970-Dodge-Challenger-340

[Bad Bird]

To the OP I hope you find your dream Challenger and get it down to Oz. That's be an incredible achievement and a dream come true. If I see anything out there I will post it up.

Very much appreciated.  Hopefully things fall into place in the next year or so!

[R/T's 4 R/P]

There is always a difference between what somebody is asking... And what it really sells for.
It seems that many of these cars at the prices that are being asked sit for a long time.
Few people are willing to divulge what they really sell the car for.
If you see certain cars that sell right away, those are probably more realistic pricing.
I would say it's better to get your eyes on the vehicle. Or have somebody look at it and be ready to jump on a deal when you find it.

Flippers are going to flip. So watch for guys who just have owned a car for a short time and I have no history.

[Mopsquad]

Premium priced, and 340:
https://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/STL/8705/1970-Dodge-Challenger-340

Gateway is good indicator of market values. You just have to use the special equation.   Market Value =  Gateway x .781456 

[blown motor]

 

[Bad Bird]

Flippers are going to flip. So watch for guys who just have owned a car for a short time and I have no history.

You couldn't be more correct! I have now missed out on two cars (including a U-code 4-speed) that I offered the seller more than their asking price, to then see the new buyer have the car for sale on Facebook not 4 weeks later about $20k over the original price. People are entitled to do as they like with their things, but it sure is disheartening.