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Started by wldgtx, August 25, 2017, 05:51:18 AM

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ksierens

6bblgt, this is great info, where did you get it from?  I always wondered about my options too!
1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed Dana 3.54

6bblgt

R/T SEs were usually better optioned than their "pedestrian" R/Ts  - that was basically their purpose UPSCALE

how close to the sheet and/or tag is the car restored? 
sill mouldings, RH painted racing mirror, 15" wheels/tires & space-saver spare would be additional OPTIONs below 20% installation rates

FYI: there should be a HOLLEY carburetor on top of that 383HP

ksierens

Mine is an R/T 'U' coded car that came with a hemi 4 speed, dana 3:52 rear, SE trim, light package, AM 8 track (which was gone when I bought it), E60-15 tires with a space saver spare.

R22 V68 Y05  26 EN2
  M25 M31 N41 N42 N85
C16 C55 G31 G33 J45 M21
V1X A01 A33 A62 A63 B51
TX9 H6X9 000 B04 077768
E86 D21 JS23 U0B
1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed Dana 3.54


Cuda Cody

I might have a Holley with the correct part number and date code?  If you like I can check?

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 25, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
FYI: there should be a HOLLEY carburetor on top of that 383HP

71GranCoupe

Quote from: Cuda Cody on August 25, 2017, 10:34:31 AM
I might have a Holley with the correct part number and date code?  If you like I can check?

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 25, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
FYI: there should be a HOLLEY carburetor on top of that 383HP

Probably needs the 4369 I have been looking for as it has AC. There is one on  :ebay: right now, but is not even close for my SPD. I do have a 4369, but waiting to find an early 69 dated carb. Share the SPD of your car and we should be able to get you fixed up if wanted.  :cheers:

wldgtx

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 25, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
R/T SEs were usually better optioned than their "pedestrian" R/Ts  - that was basically their purpose UPSCALE

how close to the sheet and/or tag is the car restored? 
sill mouldings, RH painted racing mirror, 15" wheels/tires & space-saver spare would be additional OPTIONs below 20% installation rates

FYI: there should be a HOLLEY carburetor on top of that 383HP

It appears to be extremely close to spec.  Mind you I was told that much of the car is original when I got it.  I know some things were restored, but everything looks as it should. 

Interesting on the carburetor, the owner said that he restored the "factory" carb, I wonder if the original was replaced years before?
1968 Hemi GTX, 4 spd, RR1
1970 Challenger RT/SE, FC7 - FC7RTSE
1987 Buick Grand National

EB3-GranCoupe

We all have the "one that got away", right?  This one was mine:

V5W Y05 26 EN1
N41 N88 P31 P37 R22
G36 H51 J45 J54 M25 M31
V3W A21 B51 C16 C55 C62
FC7 P6XW 000 403 058141
E63 D32 BP27 N0B 294308

Hopefully, its still out there somewhere....


Timbbuc2

Thanks for posting pics of your car, mine has the same color combo, and I was wondering how the rocker panel moldings would look. Now I know.
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xx88man

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cataclysm80

The 1970 E body 383 engines were the same ones used for the 1970 B body 383 engines right?  Didn't matter which body style it went in?

I had to dig into carburetor application for 1970 383 engine B bodies a few months ago for my Road Runner build.
What I found with those was that the 330 horsepower auto trans cars used Carter carbs, while the 330 horsepower manual trans & all the 335 horsepower engines used Holley carbs.
Different list numbers for the various combinations of air conditioning, California emissions, & fresh air hood.

I wonder if this Challenger could have received a 330 horsepower engine?  (different cam)  :notsure:

cataclysm80

@wldgtx   You have a gorgeous car!  I really like all the options.


Would you PLEASE help me with something?  I'd like to know where your cruise control wiring passes through the firewall.  A picture would be great if possible.  (inside the car or under the hood)  Your firewall is original correct?

I've heard that the Barracuda cruise wiring passes through the same place as the 4 speed reverse light wiring, which makes sense because you couldn't get cruise with a 4 speed trans.
I've also heard that the Challenger cruise wiring passes through the same place as the 'Cuda road lamp wiring.  I always thought this was odd because Barracuda & Challenger both use the same cruise control wiring harness, so I'm not sure why it would be routed differently.
Cruise control cars are hard to find, so it would be great if you could provide some information!

I'm going to install factory cruise control on my own 70 Challenger, so I'd really like to make sure the hole gets drilled in the correct spot.  I know it goes in one of the factory dimples.

THANKS!


wldgtx

First of all, thank you for the kind words.

As for a picture, sure no problem, let me snap a few today/tonight and will be back in touch.
1968 Hemi GTX, 4 spd, RR1
1970 Challenger RT/SE, FC7 - FC7RTSE
1987 Buick Grand National

ec_co

Quote from: cataclysm80 on September 05, 2017, 07:01:05 PM
@wldgtx   You have a gorgeous car!  I really like all the options.


Would you PLEASE help me with something?  I'd like to know where your cruise control wiring passes through the firewall.  A picture would be great if possible.  (inside the car or under the hood)  Your firewall is original correct?

I've heard that the Barracuda cruise wiring passes through the same place as the 4 speed reverse light wiring, which makes sense because you couldn't get cruise with a 4 speed trans.
I've also heard that the Challenger cruise wiring passes through the same place as the 'Cuda road lamp wiring.  I always thought this was odd because Barracuda & Challenger both use the same cruise control wiring harness, so I'm not sure why it would be routed differently.
Cruise control cars are hard to find, so it would be great if you could provide some information!

I'm going to install factory cruise control on my own 70 Challenger, so I'd really like to make sure the hole gets drilled in the correct spot.  I know it goes in one of the factory dimples.

THANKS!

I think @anlauto might be able to help with cable routing too. if I remember correctly he just dealt with a cruise control resto project just last year
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'70 Barracuda B5/B5 225 /6 3spd ... about as bare bones as they came

anlauto

Quote from: ec_co on September 06, 2017, 07:23:48 AM


I think @anlauto might be able to help with cable routing too. if I remember correctly he just dealt with a cruise control resto project just last year

This is a 70 Challenger with factory cruise control. The wiring goes through the 1" hole to the right and slightly above the bulkhead fastening nut.
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EB3-GranCoupe

QuoteWhat I found with those was that the 330 horsepower auto trans cars used Carter carbs

I can confirm that my N-code Gran Coupe (330hp) had the Carter AVS.  And yes, the cam is different from the 335 hp N- code engine.  The 330hp 383 shared the same cam and heads as the 383 2bbl L-code engine.