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Why 2 FT codes for rear window louvers?

Started by JH27N0B, July 05, 2022, 07:01:29 AM

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JH27N0B

While picking up the trailer I bought from an estate over the weekend I looked over his T/A Challenger in their garage.  Today I was going over my picture of the fender tag and saw it has 2 codes that both seem to be for the window louver option.  One is A44 the other is J68.  I am just wondering why there are 2 codes for that option, is it because one refers to the louvers and the other for rear window moldings?  I didn't pull the pins and pivot the louvers up to check, but seem to recall louver cars came with a special textured window molding, maybe painted black?
I always loved window louvers and was able to buy a set in the early 80s I installed on my T/A.  Since my car wasn't coded for that option I couldn't talk myself into reinstalling when I restored the car.  I still have them in case someday I build a car that I don't mind adding some options to!

MoparCarGuy

#1
The J68 is the louvers with black rear window mouldings. "there are NO different rear window mouldings on a Challenger with rear window louvers & they are NOT painted black" as per 6BBLGT.
The A44 is a Challenger Louver package which includes the J68 louvers plus the addition of G36 70-71 OS Dual Racing Mirrors, Painted (color-keyed racing mirrors).
The introduction of this package was mid-year and announced via the below flyer.

The A44 package was available on Challenger hardtops only and T/As were prime candidates for this option. Here are three T/A examples.

MoparCarGuy

#2
And for the Barracuda...
The A67 package includes the black louvers and black painted mouldings with mandatory V1X Black Vinyl Top plus the addition of G36 70-71 OS Dual Racing Mirrors, Painted (color-keyed racing mirrors).


JH27N0B

OK, thanks!
One other question I had, is the car has chin spoilers.  I don't see a code for those on the tag.  I had put them on my T/A, but when I restored it didn't reinstall because I was convinced they were never on it in the first place.
Was there a FT code for chin spoilers on a T/A? Would it have had A45 instead of J82 if it had originally had the chin spoilers?

Ricomondo

Quote from: JH27N0B on July 05, 2022, 09:06:17 AM
OK, thanks!
One other question I had, is the car has chin spoilers.  I don't see a code for those on the tag.  I had put them on my T/A, but when I restored it didn't reinstall because I was convinced they were never on it in the first place.
Was there a FT code for chin spoilers on a T/A? Would it have had A45 instead of J82 if it had originally had the chin spoilers?

@JH27N0B - Brad, I do not believe so. Last two of my  Mr Norm T/A cars showed J78 (front spoiler) on the dealer paperwork/ build sheet but not on the FT.
Your Mr. Norm car should show the J78 on the advance dealer shipping notice if they had them from the factory as that (dealer shipping notice) mimics the monroney label. Thats not to say they could have been installed prior to delivery at GSD after the customer paid for them after the fact.
70' FE5 Challenger T/A
71' GY3 Demon 340

JH27N0B

There was nothing on the advance dealer shipping notice for my T/A about the chin spoilers.
Nor any indication Mr Norms added them.  Interesting thing I saw on my paperwork was that they had a cost listed on the dealer invoice for adding 15x7 rally wheels but it was scratched out.
The original owner bought my car in February and traded in a Challenger 340.  My best guess is that if I ever was able to trace him down, he'd tell me he didn't want to pay the $45 Mr Norm tried to charge him for the rally wheels they had added, and wanted near new mags he had on his Challenger 340 installed on his T/A instead so they swapped the wheels for him and the car rolled off the lot on mag wheels.

6bblgt

there are NO different rear window mouldings on a Challenger with rear window louvers & they are NOT painted black

"A" (A44) codes all get listed on the fender tag
"G36" gets added for the included dual mirror modifications
"J68" gets added for the louver hinge & pin modifications to the body

"A" (A62) codes all get listed on the fender tag
"N85" gets added for the hole required in the firewall for the tachometer

:iagree:  front spoilers (no factory modification necessary) were delivered in the trunk & would be a broadcast sheet, invoice, window sticker, ADSN, etc. listed item


JH27N0B

Looking at my pictures I see the trim through the louvers

MoparCarGuy

#8
Quote from: JH27N0B on July 05, 2022, 11:01:13 AM
Looking at my pictures I see the trim through the louvers
Maybe the T/A should have had painted moulding like the Barracudas did. Kind of obvious to do that and hide the window mouldings.

Here is some documentation showing both the A44 Louver Package and the J78 Front Spoilers on JH23J0B287275's window sticker and JH23J0B287875's broadcast sheet.
And JH23J0B287875's fender tag which, as discussed, does not show the J78 code for Front Spoilers that is clearly on its broadcast sheet.