Unwanted Lime Lite AAR ???

[anlauto]

So why has nobody wanted to buy this nice FJ5 AAR Cuda ? It's been advertised for 4-5 months now at $78K CDN which is roughly only $60K USD  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1970-aar-cuda-survivor-numbers-matching/1451588332?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

I believe the current seller purchased the car back in March/April 2019 for $50K-$55K CDN  and then did a lot of clean up work to it, including adding rally wheels and the correct steering wheel, etc...,etc...
What's a fair price for this almost "survivor" AAR ?  Is the automatic really holding it back ?

BEFORE & AFTER 

[Lemontwist]

I don't think you can call it a survivor with a repaint back in the 80's. Not enough info on it to say whether it is a good car buy or not.  What's the engine compartment like? Interior? paint quality? any documentation? underside? It might be a good starting point?

[anlauto]

I don't know the current owner, I'm sure he's done a lot of detail work on it....There's no broadcast sheet that I'm aware of...

BEFORE & AFTER

[FM3AAR]

Just looking at the pics, I think he could help himself by addressing the:
Headers
Hose clamps
Valve covers
Speaker in the door panel
Non rallye dash?
Antenna? Looks wrong?
Take some pics in a nicer location.
Pretty nice color combo though.

[RUNCHARGER]

It's pretty tired for that $$$.

[torredcuda]

Hard to tell how body/paint are holding up, no undercarriage pics, wrong dash, spatter paint trunk, speakers in doors, under hood still needs a lot   .....

[Bossgold]

Pictures mean nothing. You can tell Cuda mopar sellers cause they know what is important. If you ask someone to come look at the car don't forget its part of the cost as well as moving the  car. So it better be good. And yes, an auto always makes the sell more difficult

[DeathProofCuda]

So why has nobody wanted to buy this nice FJ5 AAR Cuda ? It's been advertised for 4-5 months now at $78K CDN which is roughly only $60K USD  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1970-aar-cuda-survivor-numbers-matching/1451588332?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

I believe the current seller purchased the car back in March/April 2019 for $50K-$55K CDN  and then did a lot of clean up work to it, including adding rally wheels and the correct steering wheel, etc...,etc...
What's a fair price for this almost "survivor" AAR ?  Is the automatic really holding it back ?

BEFORE & AFTER 

So you're saying the current seller bought this car 4-5 months ago for $50K-$55K CDN and then instantly put it back on the market for $23K-$28K more or is the March/April 2019 purchased date above a typo?

[1 Wild R/T]

So why has nobody wanted to buy this nice FJ5 AAR Cuda ? It's been advertised for 4-5 months now at $78K CDN which is roughly only $60K USD  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1970-aar-cuda-survivor-numbers-matching/1451588332?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

I believe the current seller purchased the car back in March/April 2019 for $50K-$55K CDN  and then did a lot of clean up work to it, including adding rally wheels and the correct steering wheel, etc...,etc...
What's a fair price for this almost "survivor" AAR ?  Is the automatic really holding it back ?

BEFORE & AFTER 

So you're saying the current seller bought this car 4-5 months ago for $50K-$55K CDN and then instantly put it back on the market for $23K-$28K more or is the March/April 2019 purchased date above a typo?

Aww, come on, he deserves to make an honest profit..... (Sarcasm) 

[anlauto]

No typo...an acquaintance of mine went to look at the car 4-5 months ago when the car was for sale in the $50K-$55K CDN range.
I'm sure the current seller put a lot of work into it, and is just trying to make some profit....no harm in that.

Is it still only worth the $55K price ?

[Fastmark]

I have bought and sold a few cars over the many years I've been into mopars. You still have to sell them at a reasonable price. I would consider that still to be a project car. We all know the big bucks it costs to restore these things. Guys that have the kind of money that he is asking, want a done car and start driving. The cheaper the car, the more people out there that are a potential buyer. What I've seen about timing needs to be mentioned as well. We have an election year coming up and uncertainty is a big deal right now. People tend to hold back in an election year. I for one and tired of all the political crap going on that has one side griping about the other and keeping the uncertainty stirred up. It's bad for the country. But politicians are not concerned about the country anymore, just staying in power and keeping a job that they don't have to produce anything and riding around stirring up discontent on my dime. Sorry, rant over.

[303 Mopar]

AAR's and TA's are down in value overall in the past year or two.  This one is not restored, just "cleaned up" and likely still needs some work. IMO it is still a $50-55k CDN car that needs a thorough inspection.

[RUNCHARGER]

It's worth $5k-maybe $10k more than what he bought it for. $1.5k in wheels and tires and a few bottles of Super Clean are not worth $30k. Start by buying a correct rad cap and valve covers, then some correct battery cables, hose clamps etc. And as we know if he's looking for the big bucks, some guy might be quite T.O.ed if he flys in and sees old, chipped paint (and it looks like gloss paint on the hood?).

[Spikedog08]

I don't think any AAR is unwanted!   Wish I had one . . . that is not my favorite color choice though . . .

[shadango]

I just have to chuckle a little when folks talk about "correct" hose clamps and rad caps like they add thousands onto the worth of a car.

Those are 10 minute changes that anyone can do. 

Heck, even headers and valve covers are no big deal to swap out if the car is otherwise "real"....

They are not what is going to deflect a person ready to spend $60k on a car from buying it if its otherwise a legit car with no real issues etc....unless its a person looking to buy STRICTLY so they can say they own a "correct" car or are extremely naive to think it matters.....UNLESS that car is 100% ORIGINAL and a true survivor, NEVER molested.

Was that rust on the rear left quarter?

Does the header panel in front of the hood look odd to anyone else?

The car could have a myriad of issues...real issues.....

"Correctness" is so over-rated IMHO.

Dont get me wrong --- I LOVE to see a true "correct" survivor .....one that was bought new and kept in as-delivered shape for decades.....one that may have some patina and some imperfections.  THAT is an accomplishment.

How is ordering a bunch of copies of parts from china from a catalog and then bolting it all back together making the car "correct" or "original" again?

Its not!

This flood of repop parts may be correct in design and looks and maybe even "officially licensed --  but they are NOT decades old parts made by US workers for US cars back when the car was being built from scratch...

They are copies of "correct" parts, made in chinese factories a few weeks ago by workers getting paid pennies and being resold as "correct parts" by vendors in the US hoping to get paid.  Its near impossible to find TRUE OEM/NOS parts for our cars anymore, so that creates a void.....these vendors fill that void...very well, too......them doing so makes it possibel for a guy like me to own a 48 year old car and actually DRIVE IT and keep it in nice shape -- AS INCORRECT AS THE CAR ENDS UP BEING.

It's fun to chase that "correct" train, but unless you have access to a stash of OEM/NOS   hose clamps and radiator caps, you are getting COPIES of correct parts.

Combine that with "restorations" that are actually done better than the original.......how is the car "correct" or "restored to OE specs? 

Some people get all bent when people sell a car that was originally a base car as something better because they restore it using higher model parts....they differentiate between "tribute" cars and "REAL cars".   yes, that is wrong if not disclosed.

Well, if the builder uses all "correct" chinese sourced parts just like the "correct" car builder is doing, what is the real difference?  The VIN code??  Ok, at least THAT can be argued that its not a true RT or whatever.....but once chinese repop parts touch a 50 year old car, is it ever "real" or "correct" again?

How is a high end, high dollar "restoration" using "correct" parts sourced from CHINA and then calling it "a correct and authentic restoration"  really and TRULY "correct" and worth the extra $$$?  At best, its the IMAGE, the ILLUSION of "correct".

Our cars originally had some orange peel and who knows what else.....how many highend resto "correct" cars actually have orange peel etc?

Repainting an axle housing and stamping some numbers on it "like the factory did" looks nice.....but it doesnt make that axle ORIGINAL in any way other than a repainted, restamped axle housing......an original with dust and grease on it, with just a partial stamping left is way cooler to me.

"original car" and "correct car" used to mean something.....but this flood of repop parts , IMHO, has fueled the deep pockets of the world to think that if they throw enough money at a car it can be "brand new and correct" and therefore worth a lot of money.....and the same type of deep pockets BUYING these cars has bolstered that thought.

Then an average guy buys a car in average shape with some aftermarket changes is told his car is not correct enough to warrant a big price tag.  LOL

If that example car we are talking about is otherwise original, even with a 1980 paint job (still 40 years old!) and has no major issues, I think its worth MORE than a fresh-off-the rotisserie rebuild that is no more than a REPLICA of a factory built car.

Auctions on TV with high-rollers just looking to make "investments" and shows on TV have been building up the "correct restorations" like they are making the car brand new again.

A car is only new and original ONCE.  And for all of our cars, that was over 40+ years ago.

Period.

So I cant understand why a redo, even if they use all the "correct" fake parts and stamp-your-own marks on stuff is worth 100 times more than a decent second day style restoration or a 50 year old car that has aftermarket hose clamps and radiator cap.

Its the BUYER that decides what a car is worth in the end...how much that car is worth to one buyer....and some of those buyers are falling for (in my opinion) the current "its all correct (using chinese parts)" wave......

Just my rant for the day....LOL