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Started by Lloyd Lind, January 17, 2018, 09:13:20 AM

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Lloyd Lind

So in the past, I cut the metal frame to fit decent full and midrange speakers into the outside speaker openings, to clear the way bigger magnet on the aftermarket speakers. This time I don't want to do this as the car is a fully documented purple AAR, numbers matching with 49k on the clock.

I am installing an original am to fill the hole and putting in a hidden system for a motorcycle With an amp behind the spare. I noticed you can get 3.5-inch speakers without the huge magnet, or any magnet for a home system that does not require a crossover and I was thinking of going that route but the speakers are so dirt cheap I'm afraid of that option as well.

Has anyone found a speaker that works that is more than just a tweeter?  Nice 6x9 in the back can be amazing if the volume is up but just listening at a lower volume you lose the crisp sound with out front speakers. I'm going to sell the car but I like the idea of giving the buyer whoever he is a unique hidden sound system like I have in my car now, less the cutting up the dash.

anlauto

If you're restoring an original AAR for resale purposes, you'll maximize the value of the car by NOT putting all that aftermarket crap in there. People spending the "big bucks" to buy a "fully documented purple AAR" want the original AM radio and single speaker.....they don't want your "custom touches"  :alan2cents:   
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quapman

I don't mean to hijack your post, but where in NC are you, Lloyd?


Lloyd Lind

I could start this with something abrasive but you have kind of gone that way with your comment to me that I did not ask for.  I just finished restoring a real 1971 Hemi Cuda for a customer in Denmark who got the car back with the radio delete It had the day Chrysler delivered it and it would have been dumb to install any kind of radio hidden or otherwise in that car, in addition I red oxide painted inside the front fenders and valances and left primer showing exactly like chysler did. It won't win o.e.m. gold because I'm sure its not going to pass muster on everything judges think is correct today but hey I was there when these cars were new and I can't forget everything I saw. Other than that I have had several 100k cars personally an no one has ever complained about my hidden radio mod or my restorations. I have cars all over the world that I have built for customers and also sold most with aftermarket radios in the dash,  Zero complaints and I get top money every time, two are on eBay now for big dollars exactly as I built them and one from a collector who just died.

Perhaps you did not mean your response to be disrespectful but to help me in some way but it did not go anywhere near helping me with my original question either. Despite your opinion of my custom touches I intend to go ahead with the hidden radio that I will enjoy listening to until I sell my Aar Cuda. I also will bypass the amp gauge in every car so that it does not burn to the ground on the new owner....that and modern tires so they don't die in them. If a customer asks I will let the car burn or permit him to die in the car but that's up to him.


Lloyd Lind

I'm four miles east of 540 at the Buffalo Road exit,East Raleigh.

edison1970

How about kick panel speakers?  Something that can be easily changed back if you or the next owner wants to.  You can probably get a better sounding speaker in there than the dash.


Lloyd Lind

I did the kick panel stuff back when these cars were worth nothing and I did not like the sound or the look, the idea today is to make it look like its totally stock with a am radio only.  The speaker locations are there I'm Just looking for a better way to use them. Thanks though.

quapman

Doing a quick egag search, the only 3.5" speakers I see with a small magnet are low wattage. I can't imagine they wouldn't pop once you turn up the volume.

Asheboro here, btw. I think we have mutual friends in Burlington.

Lloyd Lind


anlauto

I certainly meant NO disrespect to you whatsoever....What I meant was aftermarket crap has no place in a correctly restored car.  :alan2cents: :handshake: :drinkingbud:
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GY3R/T

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         You mention you didn't want to cut the dash frame speaker hole (which is hidden) as this particular car is a "fully documented purple AAR, numbers matching with 49k on the clock".
  I too believe by putting stereo amp behind spare tire and other mods only reduces potential buyers in the market for "blue chip" cars. And i consider your car a " blue chip" car.
  I'm sure Alan meant no disrespect and was only trying to give you the best opportunity to sell your car at the highest price.     :handshake:

Lloyd Lind

I don't see any way this sound system will hurt the value, based on how I'm doing the entire car. I literally won't be drilling any holes, even for the amp, it will all pull out of the car without evidence it ever was there. I see this exactly like putting a pertronix electronic ignition onside the original dual point distributor, far better than the typical Mopar electronic with an incorrect box on the cowl. Heck, I even take the original ballast resistor apart and bypass it inside to hide it. Far better than sitting next to the road in a 100k car that won't run because the points fried together. Not everyone can afford or find original shocks, ball joints or even an exact reproduction dash pad so I don't see the value of riding around waiting for the Doors or Led Zepplin to come on the am radio to complete the experience that is the reason to own these cars.

If a guy wants to hide an FM inside a reproduction am radio what is the difference. I have had this discussion several times with guys who lost against my cars at Rockingham, Farmington and Carlisle, with aftermarket radios in the open, in the dash. I see this as an opinion only, on what will bring more money or sell easier. The fact is the o.e.m. Correct car with primer showing and the correct amount of overspray and no clearcoat paint will almost never sell to anyone because the entire car is a reproduction of something that just did not look that good back in the day...we just did not know any better back then. But today the numbers matching low production base clear underside finished over the top in every way ORIGINAL car is the one all the big money collectors want. They don't care to stand around all day for a O.e.m. Gold certificate when they can bring the other high dollar collector friends they have over to wow there unbelievable over-restored car. All that said a handful will not like my cars for some liberty I take, fine they can pass and someone else can buy and get the trophies because even the judges like incorrect cars most times, they just don't know it.


73_Cuda_4_Me

 :thinking:

I can see both points of view, and respect both views... there will be buyers on both sides, and judges on both sides as well...

The purist will opt for Alan's view, while many others will opt for show... I can live with both, and try to take advantage of better design aftermarket parts where I can (suspension and drive, as well as sound), as I don't plan on selling my ride any time soon, and plan on enjoying the ride as long as I can, as comfortably as possible.

Life is too short as it is...   :alan2cents:
73 340 `Cuda 727 Auto on Column

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anlauto

Nothing wrong with building a resto-mod, they're actually quite popular right now :alan2cents:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration