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440 motor running hot - block and heads not matching and gasket restriction

Started by WCC, October 19, 2018, 11:41:11 AM

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1 Wild R/T

And one more time....   Hayden 2797 clutch, it's short & it drives the fan at a higher percentage, both faster and longer... Hayden lists it as a severe-duty thermal...

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WCC

Thanks guys, appreciate all the help and advice. A clutch fan it is.  :ohyeah:


WCC

One other question, should I look at changing the water pump as well while I'm at it. It is a newly rebuild 8 blade original pump and my thinking is because it works fine and the car keeps cool while moving it should be fine correct? Only issue is at idle. I do not want to replcae parts unnecessary though.

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rebelyell

I've got an unbranded aluminum radiator and a 413 block, but I found the Hayden 2947 clutch to be the right height with the shroud I have. Everything else put too much of the fan inside the shroud. I have a 2707 clutch sitting at my house that I never got around to returning to Summit.


WCC

What fan blade are you running? Are there any specific recommended blades to use with the heavy duty Haydens. I'm assuming it will be an 18" 7 blade?

1 Wild R/T

Quote from: rebelyell on October 25, 2018, 06:55:42 AM
I've got an unbranded aluminum radiator and a 413 block, but I found the Hayden 2947 clutch to be the right height with the shroud I have. Everything else put too much of the fan inside the shroud. I have a 2707 clutch sitting at my house that I never got around to returning to Summit.

Might want to check the clutch again... The 2900 series part numbers are mostly designed for reverse rotation.... Also Hayden doesn't list a 2947 in their online catalog.... I'm guessing you meant 2747 which is commonly used on Mopar's... All the specs match up to the 2797 accept height, the 2797 is about 1/4" taller... The 2747 is a standard duty clutch & doesn't cool nearly as well as the 2797 which is a severe duty clutch....

So, for a third time 2797....  It's only been recently introduced, it was designed to fit our cars & it drives the fan at a higher % too help keep the engine cool...

Chryco Psycho


rebelyell

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on October 25, 2018, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: rebelyell on October 25, 2018, 06:55:42 AM
I've got an unbranded aluminum radiator and a 413 block, but I found the Hayden 2947 clutch to be the right height with the shroud I have. Everything else put too much of the fan inside the shroud. I have a 2707 clutch sitting at my house that I never got around to returning to Summit.

Might want to check the clutch again... The 2900 series part numbers are mostly designed for reverse rotation.... Also Hayden doesn't list a 2947 in their online catalog.... I'm guessing you meant 2747 which is commonly used on Mopar's... All the specs match up to the 2797 accept height, the 2797 is about 1/4" taller... The 2747 is a standard duty clutch & doesn't cool nearly as well as the 2797 which is a severe duty clutch....

So, for a third time 2797....  It's only been recently introduced, it was designed to fit our cars & it drives the fan at a higher % too help keep the engine cool...

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=7669832&cc=1327249&jsn=1

This is the one I have. Only one I could find short enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


1 Wild R/T

Quote from: rebelyell on October 25, 2018, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on October 25, 2018, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: rebelyell on October 25, 2018, 06:55:42 AM
I've got an unbranded aluminum radiator and a 413 block, but I found the Hayden 2947 clutch to be the right height with the shroud I have. Everything else put too much of the fan inside the shroud. I have a 2707 clutch sitting at my house that I never got around to returning to Summit.

Might want to check the clutch again... The 2900 series part numbers are mostly designed for reverse rotation.... Also Hayden doesn't list a 2947 in their online catalog.... I'm guessing you meant 2747 which is commonly used on Mopar's... All the specs match up to the 2797 accept height, the 2797 is about 1/4" taller... The 2747 is a standard duty clutch & doesn't cool nearly as well as the 2797 which is a severe duty clutch....

So, for a third time 2797....  It's only been recently introduced, it was designed to fit our cars & it drives the fan at a higher % too help keep the engine cool...

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=7669832&cc=1327249&jsn=1

This is the one I have. Only one I could find short enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Interesting, I wonder why the Hayden online catalog doesn't list it.... That one is super short....     


rebelyell

Found it on their e-catalog.

Only one I could find that set my fan the right distance outside of the shroud.

WCC

I ended up using the stock clutch and fan (7) blade while getting rid of the electric fan - works extremely well and my motor is super cool. Thanks again Chryco and Wild for your valuable advice.

Chryco Psycho