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Started by Mrbill426, September 21, 2017, 07:14:25 PM

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Mrbill426

I know this should be a simple process but I am having trouble selecting the correct fuel lines for our restoration.  It seems no matter what supplier I look at they don't list exactly what we have; that or I am just "blind" to it.  :(  I am pretty sure (rust factor) the original feed lines are 5/16" OD.  The online catalogs do list those, but they are not clear to me on the other line which looks to be 1/4" OD, and is in two pieces with the long section running from the back of the car to the engine compartment where it connected to a rubber hose, and then another short metal line to finish the run at the charcoal canister.  The only 1/4" line I see listed they are calling a "return" line....  My fuel pump has NO return line.  My 1/4" line is most definitely a "vapor" line to the canister.  The only line they list as a vapor line is 5/16", that is NOT what we have.   My current work schedule does not allow me to spend much time on the phone with vendors, so if anyone can tell me which ones to select that would be helpful.

The car is a '72 (April of '72) Cuda, 340.

Thanks!

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Burdar

Your Cuda should have a 5/16 feed line and a 1/4" vapor line just as you described. That's the same thing my 73 Challenger came with. Have you just looked at the lines listed for 72? Maybe have a look at what they list for a 73. I bought mine from Fine Lines.

Burdar

Just had a look at their online catalog and it is confusing. Their paper catalog they used to hand out at shows was much nicer. It's possible that they are calling the vapor line a return by mistake. Calling them would clear things up. Maybe someone has one of their paper catalogs and can look it up?

The next problem you'll run into is that no one makes the correct retaining clips. I had to buy nice used ones. If your original ones are still intact, you can clean them up and reuse them.


anlauto

I would say EGL7307OM , but I still would want to call and see if it's a two piece design.
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Mrbill426

Thanks, that is all I can figure, wrong description on the vapor line.  Clips are not correct?  That's not encouraging  :(  Same goes for brake line clips??

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Quote from: Burdar on September 21, 2017, 08:16:29 PM
Just had a look at their online catalog and it is confusing. Their paper catalog they used to hand out at shows was much nicer. It's possible that they are calling the vapor line a return by mistake. Calling them would clear things up. Maybe someone has one of their paper catalogs and can look it up?

The next problem you'll run into is that no one makes the correct retaining clips. I had to buy nice used ones. If your original ones are still intact, you can clean them up and reuse them.

Burdar

The brake line clips aren't an issue.  I THINK your 72 should use the same style as my 73.  This wide clip holds both the 5/16 feed and 1/4 vapor line together.  Maybe they started making them since I got my car done?  There are several that look close, but aren't right.


Mrbill426

Yep they look like those @Budar . 
I received my Fine Lines catalog yesterday and although they list a clip set for 5/6" & 1/4" lines #HCK0031, with 10 clips, 2 bolts, and 7 "S" clips, our car has 7 double clamps (like your photo), and 5 single (1/4") clamps, with 12 bolts, and one (1) triangular shaped "clip" that retained the mail line near the tank pickup.   What are "S" clips?

Does this sound like what you have on your '73?

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Quote from: Burdar on September 22, 2017, 08:52:43 AM
The brake line clips aren't an issue.  I THINK your 72 should use the same style as my 73.  This wide clip holds both the 5/16 feed and 1/4 vapor line together.  Maybe they started making them since I got my car done?  There are several that look close, but aren't right.




shawge

S-clips can be seen in the lower part of the picture
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Mrbill426

Oh, okay.  My fuel lines had none of those, only the fold-over clamps secured by screws, and one of the triangular clips up near the tank.  Not sure that is right but that is how it was.

Quote from: shawge on October 04, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
S-clips can be seen in the lower part of the picture

Mrbill426

Since our car had no S-clips that I could find, can anyone show how they were used to secure the lines to the car??
Thanks!

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Quote from: shawge on October 04, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
S-clips can be seen in the lower part of the picture

anlauto

They secure the two lines to each other not to the car. :alan2cents:
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Mrbill426

Ahhh I see, well maybe they fell off over time.
I guess I will have to contact Fine Lines about the 5/16" / 1/4" clamp kit they list that is supposed to fit our car, because the description it isn't even close   :stop:  Our lines are secured by clamps like Budar posted, with only one of those push-in spring clips. 

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Quote from: anlauto on October 06, 2017, 05:32:28 AM
They secure the two lines to each other not to the car. :alan2cents:

Burdar

No "S" clips on my 73.  I think mine had two of those spring clips on the shock x-member.  Maybe one at the front where the vapor line is spliced.

Mrbill426

Yeah I think we pretty much have the same setup Budar, the existing spring clip was back on the rear (vapor) somewhere near that vapor box.  There may have been one up front but I am not sure.

Thanks!


Quote from: Burdar on October 06, 2017, 08:38:37 AM
No "S" clips on my 73.  I think mine had two of those spring clips on the shock x-member.  Maybe one at the front where the vapor line is spliced.