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Any dog behavior experts... Gonna kill this dog....

Started by 1 Wild R/T, July 15, 2018, 11:46:41 PM

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First the background for those who don't know my dog history... We've owned Huskies for about twenty five years now....  We like keeping a pair typically so they bond & play together.... I walk them allot & when they are of an appropriate age I harness them & run them with a bike....  I've never had an issue establishing alpha role & having my dogs be calm & submissive....

So about three weeks ago we got talked into taking in another Husky...  He turned 15 months today.... Biggest problem the previous two homes didn't work with him & he had no idea what rules are.... Kitchen counter? Must be for climbing on..... Other dogs food? If he can take it then it's his.....    I've been working with him & I've made huge gains, he now sits while food is prepared & respects other pets bowls.. He's learning to walk on leash, he's starting to get good at it.. He shakes, today I took him out with the bike for the first time & he did surprisingly well....  In many ways he's showing great potential....

However.... When we first brought him home he attacked our 13 year old female... I was there, saw it & immediately "corrected" him....
After that he's never acted aggressive toward her or any other dog when we as present... However one day about a week & a half ago we came home & our old girl was bloody, I checked my security cameras & found him attacking her.....  I didn't feel I could discipline him since I didn't witness the attack & he likely wouldn't connect ,my actions with his actions..... So we've been keeping them separated but if they can't live as a pack & get along then we have a problem....   So I've started putting all three dogs together, walking them together, sleeping together... Just as it should be.... Today I had to leave for a couple hours & when I returned I saw a few tufts of fur in the yard....  Watched the footage & he attacked her seven separate times... She was trying to avoid him, the first time she was attacked she had her back to him & he had been laying on the lawn & suddenly sprung up & attacked....  He's never attacked the young female.....  I can't/won't let him continue to attack my older female.....  I'm about to do something I've never done before & drop him at the pound.... Not what I want but I'm not going to have him attacking my girl.....

Any thoughts?

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This dog is disrupting your life and the lives of your other two dogs, especially the older one. Do what you have to do and don't look back.
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ZEN357

I had the same issue but with three cats.  Two Female and one male.  I ended up having to find a home for the second female cat because they both wanted to be the Alpha.

JS29

I am no expert, I have heard that they keep the sled dogs separated because they want to attack one another.  :alan2cents:   

1 Wild R/T

Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on July 16, 2018, 02:40:56 AM
is he "cut"?

He wasn't when I got him but he was before he came home... He also had a broken tooth with exposed nerve.. I had it extracted... And he had fleas but I got him & my other dogs each a Bravecto...


BIGSHCLUNK

Hmmm... The food thing could be a hoarding issue, this can be resolved. Who knows what his total history is? As for the "attack" thing...not tolerable!  :stop:  Is your older female the alpha? Even after being "cut" some dogs will still try to take on the alpha to establish dominance. Has your female been "cut"? Beleive me when I say dogs "know". I've worked with GSD's for 35 years and have seen some wierd interactions. Let ol' BIGS ponder this a little.....   :thinking:  I will also say I've seen that 1 dog in a thousand that just "aint right". But most likely this can be fixed with the right training.   


fantum

If you like the dog, and life - otherwise - is fine with him, I would crate him when you leave for extended periods of time.  Dogs adjust very quickly. It is not cruel to them, think of it as "their space" or their "bedroom".  Many times our dogs go to their crates on their own to get some alone time.


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Jack London's book "Call of the Wild" gave me a great understanding of how wolves and and Arctic dogs think. The book was so well written I read "White Fang" by Jack London also.  Suggested reading for any Arctic dog(Malamute, Siberian Husky)  owner.

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That's the problem with taking on a dog with an unknown past. Trust me I know it all too well with a Springer/Pointer mix my wife decided to rescue. Mega issues with past owners but now he is behaving mostly the way we want.

With what you have told us I would also try crate training, although it works best when started as a pup so you may get some pretty interesting behavior with an older Husky. The trick is sticking with the training no matter what. His past behavior is learned and so he must unlearn it.
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1 Wild R/T

He's gone ..   I hate it, never gave up on a dog before & he has so much potential... But my old female's well-being comes first... Period....


Timbbuc2

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 16, 2018, 02:53:04 PM
He's gone ..   I hate it, never gave up on a dog before & he has so much potential... But my old female's well-being comes first... Period....
Dont blame you one bit. I had a Husky,(beautiful dog) but he was killing my animals, for no reason. You cant break them from that. So I got rid of him.
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jimynick

You did the right thing. Based on your reports of seeing him attack your old female, it was just a matter of time before he either crippled or killed her. Good riddance to ........ :thinking:
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edison1970

Sorry to hear that it didn't work out.  Some dogs just don't get along with other dogs.  My Pit is the same way.  If you should take on another dog one day and it turns out this way again, try getting in touch with a husky rescue.  They will take the dog and find a home.  I used to deliver dogs of all breeds to different rescues that handled and delivered the animals across the US. 

1 Wild R/T

I contacted the two Siberian Husky rescues in the area, they both told me they don't accept dogs from owners, take him to the pound & they might rescue him......  Tried making me feel guilty about dumping the dog.... Which I do but I won't let a dog that I'm trying to help be a danger to my old female......   I hate having to do it but I know it's the right thing for my girls... And they came first...