L.A. vs. Hamtrack: What options each did?

[Topcat]

This might be a tough question but I thought I'd throw this out to see what others know.


So what options were offered for each plant for E bodies?

What did the L.A. plant provide that Hamtrack didn't as well?

[ec_co]

I may be wrong here, please correct me if I am.

Hamtrack plant did all the specials. T/A, AAR, Hemi, 440+6 - due to special needs of each that LA wasn't equipped for or didn't have special facilities nearby to handle the specialties like the extra needs of the Hemis and 440+6 stiffening or AAR and T/A special builds. other than that I think they pushed out the same

[71GranCoupe]

A reverse answer to your question, convertibles were all built at Hamtramck, none from LA, at least that is what someone told me. 

[Topcat]

I may be wrong here, please correct me if I am.

Hamtrack plant did all the specials. T/A, AAR, Hemi, 440+6 - due to special needs of each that LA wasn't equipped for or didn't have special facilities nearby to handle the specialties like the extra needs of the Hemis and 440+6 stiffening or AAR and T/A special builds. other than that I think they pushed out the same

I'm pretty certain the Hemi's weren't done there.  Built at the Chysler Marine division.
Hemi engines were built at a separate plant. Maryland perhaps?
Then shipped out to Hamtrack. 

Memory can't confirm at this time.   
So correct me if I am wrong.

[ec_co]

that's what I meant by special facilities closer to Hamtrack than LA. special engines, special stiffening procedures and tooling.

[Cuda Cody]

The fender tags are a bit different, but as for options you could order on the cars... I think it was the same.  The only major different was you could not get a Hemi E-Body from LA.

[B5Cuda440-6]

The LA Plant did build 440+6 cars. T/A's, AAR's, Hemi's and E-Body convertibles (from what I've been told) were only manufactured at Hamtramck.

[Cuda Cody]

   Yes to the 440+6 Cudas, but no real 440+6 Challengers have surfaced yet. 

[autoxcuda]

No sunroof challengers out of LA plant. No sunroof b-bodies either. In those years the sunroofs were done outside the plant at an ASC facility in/near Detroit.

And like was said before no Hemi's and  no Convertibles.

LA built cars do not have the grey primer like at other plants. LA cars have black or very dark grey underside primer.

There is a gold survivor 71 Challenger 440-6 that was found local here in So Cal. Can't remember if it was an LA car or not. The car was near Bill Alphim in So. Ohio/No Kentucky a few years ago. Maybe he can confirm.

[Topcat]

that's what I meant by special facilities closer to Hamtrack than LA. special engines, special stiffening procedures and tooling.

From what I recall, no engines were actually manufactured at either plant.
They arrived to both plants already assembled.

Engine's, trans, and diff's were all done at separate facilities.

(Source was a thread on Moparts years ago)

That could be a thread of itself.

[6bblgt]

E-bodies at-

LA:
'70 model year ONLY - scheduled production August '69 thru first week of May '70
NO HEMI, AAR, T/A, convertible, sunroof, N94 hood
NO known 440 SIX PACK Challenger R/T (or R/T SEs)
all WSS Challengers up to first week of May '70

HAMTRAMCK:
'70 - '74 model year - scheduled production August '69 'til end of '74 model year (July '74?)
all HEMI, AAR, T/A, convertible, sunroof, N94 hood
all known 440 SIX PACK Challenger R/T (& R/T SEs)
all WSS Challengers after first week of May '70

all other OPTIONs appear to have been available at both plants

[6bblgt]

1970

727 transmission "PK" assembled in Kokomo. IN
383/440 assembled in Trenton, MI ("PT" but not stamped in '70)
426 HEMI "MN" assembled in Marysville, MI
318 "FM" assembled at "Mound Rd." DETROIT, MI
340 "FW" assembled in Windsor, ONT

[cataclysm80]

I agree with Dan.   and most of the rest of you also, but Dan's answer is the most complete answer.

It's also worth mentioning that a large portion of the N95 cars were probably built in LA, but not all of them.
Proximity of the destination dealership to the assembly plant was considered when determining where a car would be built.

As mentioned above, LA used a darker colored primer, and a different font on their fender tags.
LA cars usually don't have broadcast sheets.

If a part was supplied to Chrysler by more than one vendor, each assembly plant is more likely to be using the part from the nearest vendor.
I seem to recall that this was the case with seat belts.  The seat belt vendors were Pontonier & American Safety.
LA cars were far more likely to have seat belts from one of those two vendors, though I don't recall which one off the top of my head.

[cataclysm80]

'70 - '74 model year - scheduled production August '69 'til end of '74 model year (July '74?)

I was just about to ask about that.

When in 1974 did E body production end?
I had heard that it ended early.  I want to say April, but I don't recall.
I have a 74 Challenger Broadcast sheet with an April 17th SPD.
What's the latest built E body that you guys have heard of?


As far as production start dates for each year, here's what I have listed...
1970 LA production started 8-18-1969
1970 Hamtramck production started 8-1-1969  (1970 Pilot cars were 801, but when did regular production start? 804?)
1971 Hamtramck production started 8-2-1970   (Is your Pilot car an 802 Dan?)
1972 Hamtramck production started 7-14-1971
1973 Hamtramck production started 7-31-1972
1974 Hamtramck production started 7-30-1973

[6bblgt]

1970
Hamtramck "scheduled" Friday 801 = pilot, Saturday 802 = promo, Monday 811 = production
Los Angeles "scheduled" Friday 801 = pilot, Monday 818 = production

1971
Hamtramck "scheduled" Saturday 801 = pilot, Sunday 802 = promo, Friday 807? = production