Quarantine or not?

[7212Mopar]

China revised the numbers on their COVID 19 deaths which is unbelievably low compare to other countries. Big lies from them. On the other hand we have less people than them but our deaths is so much higher. Could be over reporting on our own numbers so that the States can get more relief money from the Fed. China is sending people back to work so they care more about the economy than we do. While China becomes a capitalistic state, we are moving to become a socialist state. 

[JH27N0B]

The US death numbers are not accurate and although may be inflated in some cases, they are underreported in others.  In NY for example, there has been a large uptick in numbers of people dying at home.  Most likely this is because of COVID 19.  However they aren't reported as COVID because the coroners office doesn't have the resources to test these deceased people.  This is likely happening elsewhere too, so how many people in the US have died of COVID19 but aren't reported as that because they weren't tested for it?

[7212Mopar]

Then the Chinese numbers are total lies with their population so much higher than ours and we isolate no different from them.

[dodj]

we isolate no different from them.

Maybe...
In China it may be isolate like you are told or get shot. A little more incentive.....to do what you are told.

[Topcat]

Then the Chinese numbers are total lies with their population so much higher than ours and we isolate no different from them.

50% higher now than what was first reported.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-wuhan-china-abruptly-increases-death-toll-by-50-2020-4

[1 Wild R/T]

Then the Chinese numbers are total lies with their population so much higher than ours and we isolate no different from them.

50% higher now than what was first reported.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-wuhan-china-abruptly-increases-death-toll-by-50-2020-4

IMO five times the current number & you'd still be short..

[worthywads]

Then the Chinese numbers are total lies with their population so much higher than ours and we isolate no different from them.

50% higher now than what was first reported.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-wuhan-china-abruptly-increases-death-toll-by-50-2020-4

IMO five times the current number & you'd still be short..

I agree with that opinion, I don't think anyone believes China's official numbers at all.  Seems impossible that NYC totally dwarfed China's numbers.  Maybe people that believe the NYC and Italy numbers are fake.

[torredcuda]

The US death numbers are not accurate and although may be inflated in some cases, they are underreported in others.  In NY for example, there has been a large uptick in numbers of people dying at home.  Most likely this is because of COVID 19.  However they aren't reported as COVID because the coroners office doesn't have the resources to test these deceased people.  This is likely happening elsewhere too, so how many people in the US have died of COVID19 but aren't reported as that because they weren't tested for it?

When we get widely available antibody testing the number of infected will probably go way up and the mortality rate will go down.

[worthywads]

When we get widely available antibody testing the number of infected will probably go way up and the mortality rate will go down.

I've seen as poor as 30% false positive with antibody test so far, detecting common cold virus.  Until a very accurate antibody test is made that dog don't hunt.

[71-440]

Turn up the volume....

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/049/221/759/original/dcc24dd103a16c1d.mp4?1587512751

[dodj]

When we get widely available antibody testing the number of infected will probably go way up and the mortality rate will go down.

This is starting to prove out. Still scary for those over 70 or already compromised in some way.

[Cuda Cody]

Does this change the way we move forward?

Covid-19 was in CA in January and most likely December of 2019 through community spread.

"The Santa Clara County Medical Examiner-Coroner performed autopsies on two people who died in their homes February 6 and 17 and sent samples to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the county said Tuesday. The CDC confirmed Tuesday that the tissue samples tested positive for coronavirus...."

https://www.kptv.com/general/2-californians-died-of-coronavirus-weeks-before-previously-known-1st-us-death/article_2d8ee984-389b-5c94-9496-8a3ac411be62.html

[blown motor]

Does this change the way we move forward?

I think that for a lot of people it will very much change the way we move forward. For us, we have already decided that for this year we will not be attending any large functions. We've been discussing things we can do or places we can go that will involve minimal contact with other people. Not sure how we'll handle overnight accommodation, might just be a bunch of day trips.

[anlauto]

Covid-19 was in CA in January and most likely December of 2019 through community spread.

Does it really matter "when" it started ?
I think it matters most what we're are doing now and tomorrow...The people that want to rush to get things back to normal are the ones being very naïve thinking everything will be okay, no big deal.... 

[dodj]

Does it really matter "when" it started ?

To gain a complete understanding of the virus it does.

We do need to 're-open' the economy in a sensible manner. Including 2m spacing. Fan sports, large gatherings will have to wait. Re-open stores and other businesses with new rules that take distancing into acct.