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Title: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 13, 2017, 08:51:26 PM
I had a progress build going on CC, but figured since I transitioned over here I would post my build here, now that that more has finally been done.

Car History:

I bought my 71 Challenger L code (383 2bbl) in 2013 in the Tacoma, WA area (Past the narrows bridge) as a shell only. It was a factory GY9 (Dark Gold), hideous color in my opinion lol. My goals are to make a resto mod out of it for street/strip purposes (A few car shows too). While this project goes slower than I originally wanted it to, it is still moving in a forward direction, so I can't complain about that! Not to mention it is very fun, especially now that it's starting to look more like a car again, lol. Let me state that I'm new to muscle cars and I'm learning as I go, and I love it! All paint and body work credit goes to to my buddy Brian (He is also helping me with the overall build). I also have a rebuilt 727, a  b-body Dana 60 with 4.10 gears (needs rebuilt), TTI headers and various other things that I have collected over the years of owning it. I'm sure I'll be asking questions along the way for suggestions on my build so I appreciate the advice given.

2013 - Pictures of when I first bough the car

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2014 - Tear down and sandblasting

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2015 - Metal work and 440>500 stroker

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2016 - More bodywork

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2017 - Final Bodywork and Paint (Dodge 2014 High Octane Red)

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More photos and progress to come! Sorry about some of the photos my buddies camera doesn't seem to have the best quality.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Cuda70-74 on September 13, 2017, 08:55:33 PM
Nice things are coming along well with this project. I like the color
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Rev-It-Up on September 14, 2017, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.

That was my first thought when I saw the color!

Glad you moved your thread over @MoparJunkie (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/moparjunkie_454) ! I'm looking forward to watching your build! Here's a pic of my old Chally so you can see the color.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: anlauto on September 14, 2017, 05:12:56 AM
Why are you painting right over the wiper motor and stuff like that ? :huh:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 14, 2017, 06:55:03 AM
Quote from: anlauto on September 14, 2017, 05:12:56 AM
Why are you painting right over the wiper motor and stuff like that ? :huh:

It's my buddy doing the painting, not me. I'll have to ask him when I see the car in person. Keep in mind this is a budget build to some degree as well. We can't all afford shops like you Alan, lol.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 14, 2017, 07:04:08 AM
Quote from: Rev-It-Up on September 14, 2017, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.

That was my first thought when I saw the color!

Glad you moved your thread over @MoparJunkie (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/moparjunkie_454) ! I'm looking forward to watching your build! Here's a pic of my old Chally so you can see the color.

Thanks, I didn't want to move the build over until more work was done. It's been a busy year for me and my car has been side tracked more than I wanted it to be, but finally progress as fall approaches lol. Do you know the color of that chally? It does look quite a lot like my color. I'll try to get some pictures of my chally out in the sunlight when it's finished.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Rev-It-Up on September 14, 2017, 07:14:38 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on September 14, 2017, 07:04:08 AM
Quote from: Rev-It-Up on September 14, 2017, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.

That was my first thought when I saw the color!

Glad you moved your thread over @MoparJunkie (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/moparjunkie_454) ! I'm looking forward to watching your build! Here's a pic of my old Chally so you can see the color.

Thanks, I didn't want to move the build over until more work was done. It's been a busy year for me and my car has been side tracked more than I wanted it to be, but finally progress as fall approaches lol. Do you know the color of that chally? It does look quite a lot like my color. I'll try to get some pictures of my chally out in the sunlight when it's finished.

It was a BMW color called Calypso Red. 
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: anlauto on September 14, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on September 14, 2017, 06:55:03 AM
Quote from: anlauto on September 14, 2017, 05:12:56 AM
Why are you painting right over the wiper motor and stuff like that ? :huh:

It's my buddy doing the painting, not me. I'll have to ask him when I see the car in person. Keep in mind this is a budget build to some degree as well. We can't all afford shops like you Alan, lol.

I can appreciate working on a budget  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 24, 2017, 05:13:32 PM
So I have some questions if anyone wants to offer their advice, I would appreciate it (This is my first muscle car build, so bare with me, lol)

I'm at the point where I will need to start ordering some things here in the next 2-3 weeks or so, here is a list of things I need. Again feel free to comment on what brands, etc you like or recommend:

Engine/Drivetrain info:
440>500 (440 Source stroker kit)
Edelbrock ported heads and Performer RPM intake
Comp Cam Xtreme Energy Hi-Lift .564
B-body Dana 60 with 4.10 gears
Compression I was told will be right around 10.7-1

What I need so far:

Carburetor (What brand? and size?) I will be doing some 1/4 mile racing and street driving mix
Power steering box (Firm feel?) - I noticed that the stock power steering box is hitting my TTI headers, so I'll likely have to go with a manual steering box (ratio recommended?)
Alternator
Starter (High torque?)
Distributor and Distributor box (MSD/Mopar?)
Fuel Pump (If I can get away with it, a mechanical fuel pump is fine by me, so any recommendations?)
Air cleaner (likely a drop base one because the Performer RPM sits pretty high (R/T hood) 
Leaf Springs (I have the dr diff relocation kit, but I still have no clue what springs I want! Considering it will be a track/street car (NO HIGHWAY)
Water pump (Aluminum?)
26" radiator (Likely a 3-4 row?)
Wheels! (Any venders here sell wheels?) Looking for options for 15" wheels. I want 15x10 with 5.5" BS for the rear and likely a 15x7 for the front, I know 15s are scarce but I like them best
I also need little things like the hood bumpstops and hood pins
Good full bushing kit to buy? Polyurethane?

I'm sure there are people like @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10) who sell a good deal of what I need, just trying to figure out who is the best person to buy from and what is recommended to buy). I'm currently more focused on Suspension (front/rear) and misc engine parts needed).

Again, sorry if I'm confusing anyone with my wording (I'm learning the lingo as I go, lol)

Any questions please ask, and thanks for the comments in advance!
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Roadman on September 24, 2017, 05:18:04 PM
   I would recommend talking to @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  first. He will steer you in the right direction.   :rebelflag"
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 25, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
Anyone have any suggestions to my above questions? Maybe I should have posted my questions outside of my build thread?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: nsmall on September 25, 2017, 09:31:22 PM
@Chryco Psycho (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chryco-psycho_4) knows a lot about engine parts.

@MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10) worked with me and I'm hard to work with (long story). He will take care of you.

PST suspension has nice complete polygraphite kits.  At least I liked the one I bought. 

Buy your air cleaner from a local auto shop so you can test fit it.  Once you know what will fit then you can buy nice one if you want to.

Take your budget and if it's anything like mine double it and then add another 10k.  It's hard to imagine putting dirty or old looking Parts on a nice paint job so I just kept going and going but I am finally getting to the end here.  Only 30k overbudget and I tried to find good deals.   :Thud:

440 stroker, 410 rear end....become friends with a tire shop dealer.  Dang that sounds fun.

Do 440's with TTI headers need a mini starter?

That's all I got for you.  Have fun and don't overthink the budget.   It's just money.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparDave on September 26, 2017, 05:30:23 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on September 24, 2017, 05:13:32 PM
So I have some questions if anyone wants to offer their advice, I would appreciate it (This is my first muscle car build, so bare with me, lol)

I'm at the point where I will need to start ordering some things here in the next 2-3 weeks or so, here is a list of things I need. Again feel free to comment on what brands, etc you like or recommend:

Engine/Drivetrain info:
440>500 (440 Source stroker kit)
Edelbrock ported heads and Performer RPM intake
Comp Cam Xtreme Energy Hi-Lift .564
B-body Dana 60 with 4.10 gears
Compression I was told will be right around 10.7-1

What I need so far:

Carburetor (What brand? and size?) I will be doing some 1/4 mile racing and street driving mix
Power steering box (Firm feel?) - I noticed that the stock power steering box is hitting my TTI headers, so I'll likely have to go with a manual steering box (ratio recommended?)
Alternator
Starter (High torque?)
Distributor and Distributor box (MSD/Mopar?)
Fuel Pump (If I can get away with it, a mechanical fuel pump is fine by me, so any recommendations?)
Air cleaner (likely a drop base one because the Performer RPM sits pretty high (R/T hood) 
Leaf Springs (I have the dr diff relocation kit, but I still have no clue what springs I want! Considering it will be a track/street car (NO HIGHWAY)
Water pump (Aluminum?)
26" radiator (Likely a 3-4 row?)
Wheels! (Any venders here sell wheels?) Looking for options for 15" wheels. I want 15x10 with 5.5" BS for the rear and likely a 15x7 for the front, I know 15s are scarce but I like them best
I also need little things like the hood bumpstops and hood pins
Good full bushing kit to buy? Polyurethane?

I'm sure there are people like @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10) who sell a good deal of what I need, just trying to figure out who is the best person to buy from and what is recommended to buy). I'm currently more focused on Suspension (front/rear) and misc engine parts needed).

Again, sorry if I'm confusing anyone with my wording (I'm learning the lingo as I go, lol)

Any questions please ask, and thanks for the comments in advance!


Once you narrow down your parts selection . We can help with supplying them and or steer you. When if comes to specific performance parts to enhance. I am more of an OE guy and would rather you tell me what you want. That way your getting what you want not what someone suggested. Which breeds problems down the road with that uncertainty.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: 303 Mopar on September 26, 2017, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on September 24, 2017, 05:13:32 PM
Again feel free to comment on what brands, etc you like or recommend:

I listed all parts for my 505 stroker kit with a video of it running here. It pull like a freight train! - https://forum.e-bodies.org/engine-transmission-and-rear-end/4/505-stroker-parts-list/26/msg108#msg108

440>500 (440 Source stroker kit) - I would go 505 or 512 ci
Edelbrock ported heads and Performer RPM intake - I love the Street Dominator on my stroker, very streetable and @Chryco Psycho (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/chryco-psycho_4) recommended
Comp Cam Xtreme Energy Hi-Lift .564 - I like the Lunati 60312 Hyd Roller .535/.550

Carburetor (What brand? and size?) - Proform 850.  I also added the Cool Carb spacer and it helped with vapor lock. http://www.coolcarb.com/order-products.html

Power steering box (Firm feel?) - Stock box should not hit if you have the right head TTI headers.  I have 1 7/8" that clear, so see if you can shim the motor mount.  I would recommend the FirmFeel Stage III box, world of difference in steering control and feel.

Alternator - Quality Power alt can handle anything you throw at it in the future http://www.qualitypowerauto.com/item_557/Chrysler-Mount-Mega-Amp-Alternator.htm

Starter (High torque?) - Mini starters work and fit well.

Distributor and Distributor box (MSD/Mopar?) - Firecore RTR distributor, coil and 8.5 mm wires.  http://www.manciniracing.com/search-results.html?catalog=chucker54&query=firecore&Submit=Search

Fuel Pump (If I can get away with it, a mechanical fuel pump is fine by me, so any recommendations?) - Mallory red electric pump and with a 7/8" main and 5/16" return. Run the lines up the firewall to the back of the block and flip the feed to the carb backwards to keep the fuel cool in the lines.. 

Air cleaner (likely a drop base one because the Performer RPM sits pretty high (R/T hood) - drop base is fine

Leaf Springs (I have the dr diff relocation kit, but I still have no clue what springs I want! Considering it will be a track/street car (NO HIGHWAY) - ESPO makes the best springs and you can pick the height you want.  I went +1" to fit bigger tires. http://www.springsnthings.com/

Water pump (Aluminum?) - Mancini high volume http://www.manciniracing.com/mabhealwapu1.html

26" radiator (Likely a 3-4 row?) -
@MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10) can get you a 4 row OER stock looking radiator. I would suggest running a the 6 blade 17" fan with thermal clutch and a shroud. The temp on my stroker never gets above 180.  http://www.manciniracing.com/maracofanblk.html
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 26, 2017, 07:48:20 AM
@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7)

Thanks for the info!

I already have the engine listed (Picture in the first post), sorry for the confusion about that (next build I'll try a lunati cam).

Headers: I have the TTI 2" headers/3.5" collectors, that is what TTI recommended for my build. Unfortunately they barely hit my power steering pump, so I'll likely contact firmfeel as you suggested and might have to just get a manual steering box for clearance.

Ignition - With the firecore RTR, what ignition box did you run?

fuel pump - Can you provide a part number or link to the exact pump you are talking about? I searched Mallory red and it came up with 10 different pumps, lol.

Carb - I've heard lots of different people like proform carbs, so I will call them and ask them if the 850 you suggested would be a good fit. Whats the difference between their race carbs and street carbs?

I will also need an oil pump as well. I've heard just a regular one is good, and to not get a high volume one.

On a side note I was also looking at QA1's front suspension package (Drag racing). Kind of spendy but it comes in a kit (I like kits, lol) with a tubular K-frame, shocks, control arms and more. I might consider getting that too.

@nsmall (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/nsmall_145)

My budget for my parts right now is around 9k for this year. I agree on the overall spending. I have spent far more than I thought I would. But the closer it gets the happier I get! So by the time I get to the point where I can boil the tires, if that's the only thing I need and it's running, I'll be happy! lol

@MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)

So Dave do you mostly just sell OE stuff then?
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparDave on September 26, 2017, 07:57:34 AM
@MoparJunkie (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/moparjunkie_454)
Mostly but I can get just about anything.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: 303 Mopar on September 26, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Headers: I have the TTI 2" headers/3.5" collectors, that is what TTI recommended for my build. Unfortunately they barely hit my power steering pump, so I'll likely contact firmfeel as you suggested and might have to just get a manual steering box for clearance.  - The 2" may be your issue as I have only run the 1 7/8" on 3 different cars now and they all fit.

Ignition - With the firecore RTR, what ignition box did you run? - You do not need an ignition box.  Part of the beauty of an RTR distributor, and it cleans up the engine bay.

fuel pump - Can you provide a part number or link to the exact pump you are talking about? I searched Mallory red and it came up with 10 different pumps, lol. - It is the Mallory 4150 pump and is by far the quietest pump out there.  [ebay]311880314668
[/ebay]

Carb - I've heard lots of different people like proform carbs, so I will call them and ask them if the 850 you suggested would be a good fit. Whats the difference between their race carbs and street carbs? - The street carb does not have a choke and I believe they are jetted different.

I will also need an oil pump as well. I've heard just a regular one is good, and to not get a high volume one.

On a side note I was also looking at QA1's front suspension package (Drag racing). Kind of spendy but it comes in a kit (I like kits, lol) with a tubular K-frame, shocks, control arms and more. I might consider getting that too.  - I have stock K members on all my cars so I can't comment on the tubular k frame or QA1 parts. I added Hotchkis shocks, front/rear sway bars and t-bars to my Cuda and love it.  I also have ran Bilstein shocks and they are the best bang for your buck.  I would recommend subframe connectors (I just added steel tubes) and big t-bars, like 1.10's. Hotchkis and PST has the bigger bars.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 26, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7)

Nice engine!!

Headers - I agree I'm barely hitting and I'd say it's that 1/8" difference, so I will likely get a manual steering box to try and make more room if I can. TTI recommended these headers for my setup, so I will have to find a way to work with them.

Fuel pump - Thanks for the info on the Mallory 4150, it says you have to run a regulator as well. Any recommendations on that? Not sure if there is a full kit I can buy, or I can just piece whatever I need for a electronic fuel pump conversion together. But I do want a quiet pump so that's great!

Carb - I called Proform and based on my setup they recommend a race series 950 CFM #67304. They said the only difference in the street vs race is that the street carb will run better in colder weather (30 degrees or so). I will only be running my car in nice weather so the 950 is right up my alley.

Suspension - I don't want to get too crazy with spending on suspension since I am building a 1/4 mile car and not a road race car. So I will look into the Bilsteins, T-bars, and try not to go overboard with suspension stuff. Maybe a nice polyurethane bushing kit perhaps. I already have a US car tools stiffening kit welded in my car.

Thanks for the help! I will start putting a list together (given your helpful info) starting with stuff I need to get the engine running and then move to suspension after that. I'll have to see what I can order from Dave, so far all I can think of is a radiator, but there might be more he can get for me.

If anyone else has any more info please let me know. I think I will start ordering parts tomorrow  :yes:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: 303 Mopar on September 26, 2017, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on September 26, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7)
Nice engine!!

Thanks, and you will love the Proform.

Fuel pump - yes with the Mallory pump I am running this fuel pressure gauge/regulator and gauge, although I ran this pump on my '71 Challenger with no regulator.  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-12-841  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-26-500

Suspension - PST has the Bilsteins, t-bars, and the rest of the suspension parts.  Use code CK75V to save $75 on a $750 order, or CK100W to save $100 on a $1000 order.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 27, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7)

Just wanted to say thanks again for helping me figure out a direction I should go on parts. I ended up putting a list together and ordering all the engine related stuff for now you suggested and I will order suspension stuff later.

Some notes just in case you wanted to know:

According to Mancini Racing - FireCore no longer makes the Firecore RTR, so they suggested I go with MSD so I did (black coil/black 6AL box).

TTI 2" headers - As discussed before I have an issue where my header just barely hits my power steering. TTI recommended I loosen the power steering box and try and adjust it outward, or put a shim in the driverside motor mount. Other research has said that others have modified the power steering box a bit to gain clearance. Overall the info on TTI says it should fit, but TTI told me sometimes people run into issues like this since not every car was made perfectly the same. Not exactly what I like to hear after dropping 1k on headers, but I'll work around it. Hopefully what I posted above helps others if needed. I also bought the full TTI 3" x-pipe exhaust and tips so I will find out how much or how little I really like their exhaust system lol.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: usraptor on September 27, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
I'm also running the 440 Source 512 Stroker, Lunati 704 hydraulic cam, Holley Dominator Intake and TTI headers with 3"X Pipe.  However, my headers are the
1 7/8' and fit without hitting but I'm running manual steering also.  If it's not to late consider buying the Dynomax Ultra Flo mufflers instead of the turbos.  Better flow and sound.
Re Mechanical fuel pump, I'm running the Carter hi pressure mechanical pump and it seems to work fine.  Re Oil pump, yes unless you have an overly large oil pan you don't want a high volume oil pump as they can suck a stock pan dry.  Instead go for a hi pressure oil pump.  Re Carb, you might also want to look at Quick Fuel.  I'm running their 880 CFM SS series carb and it's very responsive right out of the box.  Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on September 27, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
Quote from: usraptor on September 27, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
I'm also running the 440 Source 512 Stroker, Lunati 704 hydraulic cam, Holley Dominator Intake and TTI headers with 3"X Pipe.  However, my headers are the
1 7/8' and fit without hitting but I'm running manual steering also.  If it's not to late consider buying the Dynomax Ultra Flo mufflers instead of the turbos.  Better flow and sound.
Re Mechanical fuel pump, I'm running the Carter hi pressure mechanical pump and it seems to work fine.  Re Oil pump, yes unless you have an overly large oil pan you don't want a high volume oil pump as they can suck a stock pan dry.  Instead go for a hi pressure oil pump.  Re Carb, you might also want to look at Quick Fuel.  I'm running their 880 CFM SS series carb and it's very responsive right out of the box.  Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!

TTI Mufflers - I'll try to catch them about the muffler swap, if not oh well. I'm sure I'll be happy (Haven't heard a V8 rumble in awhile lol).
Fuel pump -  Well I went with an electric pump. I wasn't really wanting one because I've heard some really loud external pumps in the past, but it sounds like the Mallory 4150 is pretty quiet.
Oil pump - Mancini Racing suggested the stock flow fuel pump would be sufficient for my hemi pan (On my 440, I think its a 5 quart pan?). He said the high volume was okay to go to too, but suggest the stock Melling pump is good enough just not to get the hi pressure one. So your info and his is conflicting but either way I got the stock one.
Carb - I ended up getting a Proform black racing series 950 CFM, as per Proforms suggestion based on my engine and components. I've heard great things from Quick Fuel too, but I had to pull the trigger on Proform just because I've heard more positive feedback about the carb.

I will keep you guys posted for sure! It will be like Christmas with all the parts I ordered coming in, lol.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on October 04, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
Well my parts came in (well most of them, lol). I was able to get the Dynomax Ulta Flo mufflers instead of the turbos. It's feeling like Christmas came early!! :veryexcited:
I'm just waiting until my buddy finishes the paint and then it's off to finally start piecing my baby together! Hopefully the weather holds out for a bit longer. My buddy said he doesn't like to paint in the cold weather (I guess paint doesn't stick really well in cold weather.....)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4486/37468964572_2d42f1e8e2_z.jpg)
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Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: nsmall on October 07, 2017, 07:12:23 AM
I pretty much hate shopping for anything however when it comes to the car it's fun and it's even more fun getting boxes.  Yes, lots of fun.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Chryco Psycho on October 13, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
I use a lot of the Proform carbs , they at the top as far as tuning & response , great choice
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on October 14, 2017, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 13, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
I use a lot of the Proform carbs , they at the top as far as tuning & response , great choice

You're one of the reasons I bought it, I heard you mention them a few times and you sound like you know what you're talking about  :D

On a side note, I just purchased a dash pad from Mopar Dave (Thanks!). The plan is to rebuild the dash over the winter.

Also I have other thoughts bouncing around in my head like wheels and tires. I've been dead set on 15s for years since I've started this build but the lack of 15s isn't making my choice super easy. According to Dr Diff (after I buy his disc brake setup) I should be able to fit 28x12x15s (Roughly 305x54x15) (With B-body Dana mod) on 15x10s with 5.5 BS. I believe from a tire calculator if I was to switch to a 17 inch wheel a 28x12x15 tire should be about a 305x45x17 tire. Not sure if I want to go 17s but I'd be curious to see if I can find more 17s that are a 17x10 with 5.5BS (00mm). Anyone with a B-body rear end running 17s and how much tire do you have out back?
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Brads70 on October 15, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
I'm running a b-body rear end and using 18x11 rims( 5.5 backspacing)  with a 295/40/18 tire with no issues.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Chryco Psycho on October 15, 2017, 07:54:02 AM
I believe 17 or 18 is your best choice for 2 reasons , there are a lot more tire choices available & you can probably fit 315 wide as there is less sidewall bulge
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on October 15, 2017, 10:55:01 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 15, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
I'm running a b-body rear end and using 18x11 rims( 5.5 backspacing)  with a 295/40/18 tire with no issues.

Thanks, how's the fitment? Lots of room still left or is it pretty tight on either side (From leafs to fenders)? What brake setup are you running? Any recommended wheel venders? So far the only thing I've found after google searching is either 17x9.5 or 17x11 billet specialties street lites. They seem pretty nice, but I woudn't mind more options! Also if you are running leafs, +1 or stock height? Feel free to post some pictures! Thanks again!
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on October 15, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 15, 2017, 07:54:02 AM
I believe 17 or 18 is your best choice for 2 reasons , there are a lot more tire choices available & you can probably fit 315 wide as there is less sidewall bulge

I agree, I'll likely be able to find more sizes in 17s or 18s. I think I'll try to just stick with 17s and see whats in that size first. Hmm so a 315x45x17 might fit huh..... Well if you know any good wheel venders that can support a tire like that (17x10 etc) let me know.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on November 27, 2017, 08:33:20 AM
Big update, I've decided to switch gears and sell my 71 challenger (after paint and body work are 100% completed). I bought a 2015 Hellcat 6MT with 928 original miles on it, and decided my 71 must go. So here in awhile (Likely spring), I'll be selling my challenger and all of its parts.

If anyone is interested please let me know. I'd like to sell everything to one person, but that likely won't happen, so I am willing to part the entire car out. Can someone please tell me what my rolling chassis 71 challenger is worth fair price all body work done, 2014 High octane red pearl paint, US Tools stiffening kit. Eventually I will start a for sale thread (Again likely in spring time), with lots of pics, etc. Until then, lots of my parts I'm selling will be a Dana 60 (From a 69 1/2 super bee 4.10 gears), fresh 440 stroked to a 500 bored 40 over with lots of goodies, fresh 727 with stage 2 shift kit, extra 71 front grill, plus numerous brand new in box parts (Starter, alt, MoparDave 1 speaker dash pad, and lots more).

I'd be willing to give a discount to someone who wants everything. If not, then then I can sell it all separate. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will update as needed. Otherwise, a for sale thread will be started once the car is fully painted. The 71 is originally a L code 383 2bbl GY9 dark gold. I have 2 build sheets and the fender tag.

Thanks!

Kris Page
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: anlauto on November 27, 2017, 09:36:42 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.

Then @Rev-It-Up (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/rev-it-up_235)  should buy this Challenger  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on November 27, 2017, 06:19:30 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 27, 2017, 09:36:42 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on September 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Super cool!  Love the color.  Kinda reminds me of Rev's old Challenger.

Then @Rev-It-Up (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/rev-it-up_235)  should buy this Challenger  :alan2cents:

@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19)

Any estimated guess as to what a fair price would be for my challenger, body/paint work done just a rolling chassis (No motor, trans, interior). I can include some extra parts it came with when I bought it (Grill, dash, cluster, seats, etc).
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: anlauto on November 27, 2017, 06:28:36 PM
I don't really know the modified stuff...I would think somebody should be happy to pay $15K-$20K for a car they don't have to paint, but I guess it all depends on the quality and whether or not you find somebody wanting that unique colour. :dunno:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on November 27, 2017, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 27, 2017, 06:28:36 PM
I don't really know the modified stuff...I would think somebody should be happy to pay $15K-$20K for a car they don't have to paint, but I guess it all depends on the quality and whether or not you find somebody wanting that unique colour. :dunno:

Thanks! That's about what I'm figuring it will go for (I know just off hand I have well over 15k invested into the body alone). I have plenty of pics showing the body work if needed (They are in this thread as well). Not worried about selling it, I think I'll find someone who loves the color.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: dave73 on December 12, 2017, 08:22:07 AM
You took the easy way out  :rofl:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 15, 2017, 08:52:42 PM
Quote from: dave73chally on December 12, 2017, 08:22:07 AM
You took the easy way out  :rofl:

Not sure about that it was a tough decision for sure! I hate to see my 71 go, but I've wanted a Hellcat since they came out. I hope my 71 finds a good home!
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: RUNCHARGER on December 16, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
Probably in the ballpark. Your build is not off the wall either so I think there should be a few people interested in it.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: 303 Mopar on December 16, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Seems like a lot of the hard work has been completed, just assembly left.  I need a bigger garage...... :bricks:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 16, 2017, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on December 16, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
Probably in the ballpark. Your build is not off the wall either so I think there should be a few people interested in it.

I agree, I try and keep things tasteful, lol. There are a few non oem things on this car, but overall this car was very solid not too much rust in it. Had to get new front/rear valance and trunk lid. The biggest parts that are NON original to this car is the US Tool Stiffening kit, the T/A spoiler and the color (Which is way nicer than GY9). If someone wants to they could change stuff, but honeslty I just need to find someone who loves this red as much as I do! The pictures don't do it justice, it's a gorgeous color.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 16, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on December 16, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Seems like a lot of the hard work has been completed, just assembly left.  I need a bigger garage...... :bricks:

It was a ton of hard work indeed! Most definitely the toughest part about a build is body and paint. This car started out very solid too, most of its original sheet metal was still in great condition. Just assembly left like you said! I will post more pictures once the body and paint are fully done in the spring. Until then I started a FS thread for my parts and the challenger. So you have until spring to get more garage space!  :rofl:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: nsmall on December 16, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
Any chance you can get it running?  I'm thinking a running car with as many parts as possible installed will be more attractive.

Maybe try your luck on eBay, get some exposure?  Maybe try carsonline.com....Alan likes that site.  Good luck.  I like the color.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: anlauto on December 16, 2017, 02:20:44 PM
If he gets it running, he might as well finish the whole car...kind of defeats the purpose of selling it as a project. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: RzeroB on December 16, 2017, 04:20:12 PM
When bailing out of a project like this it's tempting to try and dump the whole enchilada as a discounted package deal, but financially you would probably get a better return on your overall investment if you have the time and patience to part it out piece by piece.  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: Roadman on December 16, 2017, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: RzeroB on December 16, 2017, 04:20:12 PM
When bailing out of a project like this it's tempting to try and dump the whole enchilada as a discounted package deal, but financially you would probably get a better return on your overall investment if you have the time and patience to part it out piece by piece.  :alan2cents:
:iagree: :iagree:
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 17, 2017, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: Roadman on December 16, 2017, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: RzeroB on December 16, 2017, 04:20:12 PM
When bailing out of a project like this it's tempting to try and dump the whole enchilada as a discounted package deal, but financially you would probably get a better return on your overall investment if you have the time and patience to part it out piece by piece.  :alan2cents:
:iagree: :iagree:

:iagree: :iagree: as well lol.

Yup I understand that, I know I will lose some money no matter what but I'm willing to take a hit (Depending on how much) just to clear the space out. That's IF someone wants to buy the entire project or the vast majority of it. Which is highly unlikely. Likely one person will want the chassis, one the engine, etc. I will do my best to get the most out of it I can and hopefully the car gets finished one day!
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 17, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: nsmall on December 16, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
Any chance you can get it running?  I'm thinking a running car with as many parts as possible installed will be more attractive.

Maybe try your luck on eBay, get some exposure?  Maybe try carsonline.com....Alan likes that site.  Good luck.  I like the color.

Zero chance I'm going to get this car running. The car is more affordable to some anyway as a project vs me putting it all together. It also gives someone else the opportunity to modify the project and make it more their own. I will be posting it on here and Craigslist locally. I'm steering away from eBay and everything else until I feel I've given Craigslist a good shot. Not a lot of E-body projects pop up on Craigslist in my area. So I think the car will sell just fine. I'm going to be patient and wait until spring time or tax season to sell it on Craigslist lol.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: dave73 on December 18, 2017, 05:42:03 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on December 17, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: nsmall on December 16, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
Any chance you can get it running?  I'm thinking a running car with as many parts as possible installed will be more attractive.

Maybe try your luck on eBay, get some exposure?  Maybe try carsonline.com....Alan likes that site.  Good luck.  I like the color.

Zero chance I'm going to get this car running. The car is more affordable to some anyway as a project vs me putting it all together. It also gives someone else the opportunity to modify the project and make it more their own. I will be posting it on here and Craigslist locally. I'm steering away from eBay and everything else until I feel I've given Craigslist a good shot. Not a lot of E-body projects pop up on Craigslist in my area. So I think the car will sell just fine. I'm going to be patient and wait until spring time or tax season to sell it on Craigslist lol.

My  :alan2cents: is you'll probably get more exposure and a better chance of getting the most out of your money on ebay. I've sold stuff on both and on craigslist you really need to weed through the bs, you are going to get a bunch of people contacting you that have no intentions of buying or want you to pay them to help you sell it.
Title: Re: 71 Challenger Restomod
Post by: MoparJunkie on December 18, 2017, 08:01:00 AM
Quote from: dave73chally on December 18, 2017, 05:42:03 AM
Quote from: MoparJunkie on December 17, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: nsmall on December 16, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
Any chance you can get it running?  I'm thinking a running car with as many parts as possible installed will be more attractive.

Maybe try your luck on eBay, get some exposure?  Maybe try carsonline.com....Alan likes that site.  Good luck.  I like the color.

Zero chance I'm going to get this car running. The car is more affordable to some anyway as a project vs me putting it all together. It also gives someone else the opportunity to modify the project and make it more their own. I will be posting it on here and Craigslist locally. I'm steering away from eBay and everything else until I feel I've given Craigslist a good shot. Not a lot of E-body projects pop up on Craigslist in my area. So I think the car will sell just fine. I'm going to be patient and wait until spring time or tax season to sell it on Craigslist lol.

My  :alan2cents: is you'll probably get more exposure and a better chance of getting the most out of your money on ebay. I've sold stuff on both and on craigslist you really need to weed through the bs, you are going to get a bunch of people contacting you that have no intentions of buying or want you to pay them to help you sell it.

Nope, I get that. I've sold plenty of stuff on Craigslist before and I've weeded threw many "buyers" until I found the real buyer. Problem with Ebay is that usually I go threw Paypal, but with selling a car I don't want to do that. That's more money I lose threw Paypal (And Ebay) from their fees and I've heard of too many horror stories where the person gets their money back and keeps the product. Paypal protects the buyer and doesn't seem to care about the seller.

So if I go threw Ebay with the car can you suggest the smartest form of payment? I'd just prefer selling the car locally, I've never sold a car off Ebay before and I don't want to get screwed over for it. I'm guessing you are suggesting to sell just the chassis and not everything as a whole.