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1970 Cuda 440 6 pack 35th car made

Started by MasonDaniel7, October 09, 2020, 12:27:51 AM

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anlauto

That would be a great project to put back to stock. :twothumbsup:
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Finoke

Quote from: anlauto on October 09, 2020, 05:09:49 AM
That would be a great project to put back to stock. :twothumbsup:

I agree, very tempting  :banana:


anlauto

$50K might be a little high, if the front clip, interior floors etc... are super clean solid, and you only have to deal with the entire rear clip....somewhere more in the $35K range might be more reasonable.... IF the "race motor", the wheels, the Dana 60, etc... is worth $15K to sell....then maybe :dunno:
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anlauto

The red on red, front and rear elastomeric bumpers is nice, original tag, numbers matching block possibly, all positives...

Column auto, no sheet, no title ....all not so nice... :alan2cents:
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6bblgt

 8)   very interesting early 1970 'cuda (35th ASSIGNED VIN, not built)  ***  but another FAKE fender tag  :foul:   wonder what it was?  :looney:

Poolshark314

Quote from: 6bblgt on October 11, 2020, 11:13:34 PM
8)   very interesting early 1970 'cuda (35th ASSIGNED VIN, not built)  ***  but another FAKE fender tag  :foul:   wonder what it was?  :looney:

How can you tell its a fake tag?
1973 Barracuda
2012 Charger R/T AWD


anlauto

Years ago, racers paid to have FAKE fender tags made for their cars so that years down the road someone would pay big dollars for them.  :bigmoney:

In this particular case they simply forgot to add N96 for a shaker and D21 for a four speed....OR their car was a 4 speed but they figured they would make the FAKE tag say it was a column shift auto so they could race in a automatic class  :thinking:
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anlauto

Going to ad the full VIN number to this thread so that hopefully the person who just paid $50,000 for this car can do a Google search and find out it has a FAKE fender tag :bigthumb:

BS23V0B100035
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Finoke

Wow very interesting. Scary buying these old projects. Another concern is buying one with an original engine to find out the engine is unusable. That would suck too.  :bricks:

6bblgt

 :thinking:  when did "J54" become a viable code?


cuda dad

Quote from: 6bblgt on October 12, 2020, 01:23:19 PM
:thinking:  when did "J54" become a viable code?
I'm confused.  J54 is Sport Hood a.k.a. Twin Bulge hood (part of the 'cuda package).

anlauto

Quote from: cuda dad on November 21, 2020, 07:46:05 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on October 12, 2020, 01:23:19 PM
:thinking:  when did "J54" become a viable code?
I'm confused.  J54 is Sport Hood a.k.a. Twin Bulge hood (part of the 'cuda package).

I can't speak for @6bblgt , but maybe Dan means J54 wasn't on early built tags ? I did a Google search and found lots of samples of tags with J54, but not as early as this Cuda ?

Maybe Dan can expand on it ?
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cuda dad

I have now seen it mentioned that early LA built cars did not have J54, learned something new.  At least on Challengers.

6bblgt

#14
at the beginning of the 1970 model year the "sport hood" was not an available OPTION on any car

for reference look at the 1969 model year: the ONLY OPTIONAL hood across ALL car lines - was N96 and ONLY on GTX, RR, Super Bee & Coronet R/T (every model had its own STANDARD hood)
mid-year the A12 cars came out with a fiberglass hood as part of the "package" & no special codes were required (similar for the Daytona & 1970's Superbird, 300H, T/A, AAR - a unique "package car" ONLY hood)

1970 debuted with the same format: the ONLY OPTIONAL hood across ALL car lines - was N96 and ONLY on 'cuda, GTX, RR, Super Bee & Coronet R/T (again, every model had its own STANDARD hood)
*** the first hood "fiasco" was the 340 Challenger package "A66" that included the Challenger R/T's "sport hood" (a hood was again part of an OPTION "package", but it was borrowed from an existing model and the hood was missed on some 340 cars)
*** the next hood "fiasco" was Dodge's attempt at a SHAKER hood for the Challenger R/T  :soshelp:
*** next up, some time in October/November the 'cuda's (BS) "sport hood" became an OPTION on Barracuda (BH) & Gran Coupe (BP) and a code "J54" was necessary & "created" (now some BH/BP cars had it - most BH/BP cars didn't)

some early AAR or T/A literature mentions the fiberglass hood as OPTIONAL, by the time production started it was a part of the "package" but possibly the reason the N94 code exists - they would've needed a code eventually for Challenger once the T/A hood was announced as OPTIONAL on other models

J54 shows up (almost randomly) on 'cuda, Challenger R/T, with and without SHAKER (N96), and on A66 & A53 (N94) "package cars" - AFTER its introduction on BH/BP

the J54 "sport hood" was NEVER a stand-alone OPTION on Challenger (1970-'74),  :thinking:  besides some '70s A-body models, 1970-'74 Barracudas are the ONLY cars that had an OPTIONAL "sport hood" - NO Satellites w/RR hoods, NO Charger SEs with "power bulge" hoods, NO Coronet 440s with Super Bee hoods, etc.