Upper Window weatherstripping. What am I doing wrong.

[usraptor]

Okay, I've adjusted my passenger side door glass/regulator as per the manual and it seems to be adjusted and working correctly.  However, when I have the window rolled all the way up and shut the door the front leading edge of the glass does not slide into the gap in the weather stripping like the rear does.  Is there some kind of adjustment I can make that will correct this or does the weatherstripping just sort of have to "wear in" to allow the glass to fit into the gap.  Or, are you supposed to have the window slightly down and then roll it all the way up when you shut the door?   

[Cuda Cody]

You need to fine tune the window angle to get it to line up better.  It's a lot of adjustment and testing to get it to fit perfectly.  There's a fine line between it works good and not at all.

http://www.e-bodies.org/Resources/1970_passenger_car_service_highlights_door_quarter_glass.pdf

[Shane Kelley]

I would like to add to this. Glue that bastard in!  Mine was sitting in the sun this morning and the sun made it draw up and come loose. Of course then it fell down. 

[Burdar]

Originals will snap right into place and stay there.(no glue/sealer)  The repop stuff falls right out.  I had to weatherstrip adhesive mine in.

[usraptor]

I would like to add to this. Glue that bastard in!  Mine was sitting in the sun this morning and the sun made it draw up and come loose. Of course then it fell down. 

I did use weatherstrip adhesive.  I'm noticed the weathstrip channeling had oblong holes for the mounting screws.  I wondering if I should have moved it inboard or outboard more before securing with the screws. 

Cody, thanks I'll try it again.

[usraptor]

Cody or Alan, quick question.  When the door closes and the window is up should the window glass just rest on the inner/lower portion of the weatherstripping or is it supposed to close against the upper/outer portion (grove in the middle between the inner and outer) and then "pop" inside the grove?

[Cuda Cody]

It doesn't "pop" in a groove.  Should nest against it nice and snug.  The key is to get the window to roll up and down and to have the door open and close and each time the window ends up on the same spot.  And also not to leak.  Sometime you have to move the window and other times you need to move the drip rail trim.  But it will line up for sure.... they always do.  You just have to look where the window and trim are and move them so them meet perfectly.

[usraptor]

Thanks Cody.  I guess my question is does the glass/window, go up inside the grove in the weatherstripping (shown in attached picture) so the upper lip covers the top of the glass or does the glass just rest against the bottom edge of the weatherstripping, just touching the bottom edge of the upper lip?

[Cuda Cody]

It pushes in to it and rests on the outside.  I've tried to take some photos of some original windows and seals and some with new rubber.  First 3 photos are a restored car and the last two is an original car.

[usraptor]

Okay thanks Cody.  Because of the grove in the weatherstripping I was thinking the glass went inside the grove not just pushed against it from the outside.   Thanks as always.  That makes it a lot easier.    

Just curious, if the window doesn't fit inside the grove, what's the purpose of having the grove in it?

[Aar1064]

Okay thanks Cody.  Because of the grove in the weatherstripping I was thinking the glass went inside the grove not just pushed against it from the outside.   Thanks as always.  That makes it a lot easier.    

Just curious, if the window doesn't fit inside the grove, what's the purpose of having the grove in it?

That's my pic you used to make your point and I too thought the same. Didn't take long for the crew here to straighten me out.

Good job.

[usraptor]

Okay thanks Cody.  Because of the grove in the weatherstripping I was thinking the glass went inside the grove not just pushed against it from the outside.   Thanks as always.  That makes it a lot easier.    

Just curious, if the window doesn't fit inside the grove, what's the purpose of having the grove in it?

That's my pic you used to make your point and I too thought the same. Didn't take long for the crew here to straighten me out.

Good job.

Yeah, thanks for letting me borrow it.  Your picture just really showed what I was trying to get across.  Sometimes, let's face it most of time, I have a tendency to over think things and make them more complicated than they are.  Like seeing that grove, I was just convinced that the window had to somehow slide up in the grove to keep the water from getting inside the window.  I have to remember to use the KISS approach to this restoration.   

Still curious as to why they put the grove in the weatherstripping, unless it was just to allow more compression and a tighter seal.   

[Cuda Cody]

It's funny, I didn't feel a grove in the original one that I went and touched, but the reproductions had a grove.     I might have to look closer to find it on the old as it's had a window on it for 45 years.