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Started by THE ZUKE, February 24, 2019, 07:11:10 AM

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THE ZUKE

Quote from: Brads70 on March 03, 2019, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: THE ZUKE on March 03, 2019, 07:26:27 AM
Could you confirm me, this link : https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mog-k7041/overview/year/1970/make/plymouth/model/cuda is the good piece I need ? Idler arms for my Cuda 1970.

Thanks for the answers.  :bigthumb:

Yes that is the correct Idler arm the other one on the steering box is called the pitman arm .

Thanks @Brads70 , now I going to order the whole pieces I need.  :tool:

The pitam arm I know because when I changed the original steering box by a Borgeson, I dismounted it  ;)
 

THE ZUKE

Quote from: Brads70 on March 03, 2019, 05:49:19 AM
Quote from: THE ZUKE on March 03, 2019, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on March 02, 2019, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: THE ZUKE on March 02, 2019, 02:29:30 PM
I found this link about my tie rod sleeves : https://p-s-t.com/i-23157806-11-16-solid-steel-adjustable-tie-rod-sleeve.html

My car has this model but I don't know which tie rod end model I need (about axis).

If I understand your question? You don't necessarily " need" the larger C-Body 11/16 tie rods but a lot of people use them, myself included. Neil quoted you the C-Body part numbers if you wish to use them. They will work with the PST part you linked to.

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on February 25, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
Es355RL & ES352R
are the tie rods that will fit & are heavier duty
This is the part# for the sleeve  10510049

Ok thanks @Brads70 for explanations.

You confirm that on my Cuda, the diameter of the threaded portion of the tie rod end that is screwed into the sleeve is larger than that of an original model.

By changing the tie rods end, should I order 2 pieces Es355RL & 2 other pieces ES352R. One ES355RL and one ES352R for the right side and the same for the left side

Yes the original thread size I believe was 5/8" , yes you will need 2 of each as they are inner and outer  tie rods plus 2 adjuster sleeves.

@Brads70 , just for your information, interesting answer.  ;)

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The stock sleeve that were on a 70 Cuda would have been 9/16" .56 a
popular upgrade is to use C body inner and outer tie rod ends and
sleeves which are 11/16" or .68" Hope this helps you. We do offer a
steering linkage kit with the larger tie rod ends and sleeves.

Thanks

dodj

I have the larger PST adjusters in my car.
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THE ZUKE

Quote from: dodj on March 04, 2019, 12:22:41 PM
I have the larger PST adjusters in my car.

Ok  ;) the same model like mine.  :bigthumb:

Chryco Psycho

You need to determine the thread size you have in the adjuster sleeves before you order tie rods that will match .
You will need a special puller for the pitman arm that is attached to the steering box

THE ZUKE

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Quote from: Chryco Psycho on March 04, 2019, 02:08:49 PM
You need to determine the thread size you have in the adjuster sleeves before you order tie rods that will match .
You will need a special puller for the pitman arm that is attached to the steering box

@Chryco Psycho, I received an answer from PST (My adjuster sleeves) I have the bigger model 11/16"on my car.

This model 9/16" is the smaller model (the original size for cuda) : https://p-s-t.com/i-23161592-9-16-solid-aluminum-adjustable-tie-rod-sleeve.html


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The stock sleeve that were on a 70 Cuda would have been 9/16" .56 a
popular upgrade is to use C body inner and outer tie rod ends and
sleeves which are 11/16" or .68" Hope this helps you. We do offer a
steering linkage kit with the larger tie rod ends and sleeves.

Thanks

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My 11/16" model link with explanations : https://p-s-t.com/i-23157806-11-16-solid-steel-adjustable-tie-rod-sleeve.html

Picture of mine with the rib caught in the threads of the screw (11/16").

I didn't have change the pit arm when I changed the original power steering by a Borgeson.

Link with explanations about my new power steering box : https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/brg-800126/overview/year/1970/model/cuda

I am sure your tie rod end (MOOG ES355RL and MOOG ES352R) match with my car and for the idler arm I need a couple of MOOG idler arm K7041.

Do you are agree with me ?

Chryco Psycho

Yes you need the 355/352 parts ,
you will only need 1 of the K7041


THE ZUKE

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on March 06, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
Yes you need the 355/352 parts ,
you will only need 1 of the K7041

Thanks Chrysco Psycho.  :bigthumb:

THE ZUKE

Yeah !! My order arrived  :takealook: :) Now I have some work to do  :wrenching: :tool: