Space Saver help ID and $

[Cuda Cody]

Thinking about selling a space saver.  Are any of these correct for E-Body and what is a fair price to ask?

#1:

From what I can tell it's a 6 hole wheel with a stamping of "E  10  K2 9" (which from Dave's book should be correct for 1970).  It also has 2  10  8  5.5 on it.  The tire is BF Goodrich F78-14.

[FlatlandTA]

Any 3-plies rayon tread  in the bunch?


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[Cuda Cody]

#2 is...

Rim is good, damaged tire. "F  11  K2 9" which should be 1970.  6th hole.  10  14  5.5  Tire was a / is a BF Goodrich F78-14

[Cuda Cody]

#3 is...

another 6 hole 1970 space saver with a BF Goodrich F78-14.  "E  10  K2 9"  10  14  5.5.  Tire was is a BF Goodrich F78-14.

[Cuda Cody]

#4 is just a rim.


6 hole correct for 1970.

[Cuda Cody]

#5 is a tire.

[Cuda Cody]

#6 is a tire, but I don't think it's E-Body?    D70-14

[anlauto]

Nice collection of spare spares....I can only imagine what the ones you want to keep look like 

[FlatlandTA]

Anyone know what this D70-14 space saver is for?? I've got one as well not sure either??


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[Brads70]

I know AMC had a space saver that some Mopar folks have used as a substitute? That to my untrained eye look pretty close? 

[anlauto]

Yea I'm pretty sure D & E was used on those orange AMC rims you see.

[mccannix]

Agree...nice collection.

I do have an issue with Wise's list as taken from a GG book
'2944250 rim 70-71 B F Goodrich tire F-78-14'.
Although an early number, 2944250 rim only had Goodyear F-78-14 Radial tread spacesaver  tire and was mid year 70 combo, not 1970-71

[CudaMoparRay]

Subscribing to this thread as I also have a space saver and the information here is fantastic

[bstyles]

The big question is how does one change/mount the collapsible tire?
I too have a properly dated wheel with used tire and and a NOS tire that I'd like installed to the wheel.

If there's someone out there that can do this, they could make a good business from it (shipping companies would make more, but that's not the point...)

$500 wheel
$100 wheel prep & paint
$500 NOS tire
$150 to mount????
$150 shipping ($75x2?)
we're still in the ballpark and saving money over finding a pristine surviving example... Sign me up!

[JH27N0B]

I assembled a space saver tire for my '71 not long after I bought the car.  I had been looking for a space saver that was close looking as I didn't want to pay the big bucks for a complete original space saver.
I'd run some wanted ads, and someone responded that they had a original wheel that had some surface rust and minor pitting.  I purchased that, but where to find a tire?  I was watching ebay and someone started selling off a bunch of Ford parts from his dad's estate including a couple of correct sized F78-14 V-1 space saver tires.  I lost out on an NOS one, but he listed one that was a little tired looking with an opening bid of $45 which I bid on figuring I'd take a gamble on it.
I ended up getting it, and after cleaning up, filling some pits, and painting my wheel, I now had the dilemma of how to mount the tire?  I had a Mopar friend at the time who had a shop and he said no problem bring it over!
We ended up wrestling with it for over 2 hours, and that included a guy who ran a Goodyear shop down the street who stopped by and got drafted into the quest of trying to figure out how to mount it.
Finally, my friend did a google search and found a thread by the late Jules the Wiperman on Moparts on space savers in which he described how to mount the tires.
The process was to mount the tire on the rim, then you inflate the tire. Inflating it was something we hadn't tried, and didn't want to try because I'd always heard as soon as you inflate the tire, it will never compact back to its original size up against the lip of the rim.
What Jules said in the thread, was that you inflate the tire until the bead seats, then immediately deflate it, and then after you do that and maybe roll it around on the floor a bit, it goes back to the original deflated state.
The gang in the shop looked at me and said, well what do you want to do?  I said, in for a penny, in for a pound, I don't have much invested in this tire, and we are out of ideas, so lets go for it!
I cringed while he blew the tire up to 45 pounds or so, and I heard a little pop sound as the beads seated.  Inflated it looked like a normal 78x14 tire!. They deflated it, and it worked, went right down to correct deflated size! And the tired tire actually looked better once on the rim then by itself. So I had a correct space saver for my '71 for around a $400 investment between what I paid for the wheel, tire, putty to fill the pits, primer, paint, new decal and one of the repro white caps.
The key is to not leave the tire inflated long before deflating it, just long enough to seat the bead, and of course never drive with it on the car.
Problem is finding a shop with a tire machine that will help out a vintage car enthusiast, I'm guessing your neighborhood Discount Tire or NTB wouldn't touch something like this.