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Bad fake AAR cuda BS23J0B168929 in a video

Started by JH27N0B, November 04, 2024, 07:57:05 AM

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JH27N0B

I was watching this video that Rocket Restorations dropped on Youtube yesterday and it rang a bell as one I'd seen listed some time back that someone posted a link to on a forum.  I recalled looking at the link the person had posted on it and when I saw the picture of the fender tag said to myself (and quickly responded to the thread) "wait what?? an AAR built in October and painted a color that wasn't available for until 4 or 5 months later?  Who are they trying to fool?"
So I was surprised to see Toms video that the car is still circulating and been through 2 major auctions.  I dug through my picture folders and found a picture I'd saved of the tag when I saw that post I am referring to, and the datestamp on the image is from 7-1/2 years ago!  I just searched the VIN on the interweb expecting to find posts on the car being a fake but only found it referred to in auction listings, so am putting it in the header here in hopes it can be found in the future by potential buyers uneducated on AARs enough to not know they didn't make them until early 1970, not fall of '69!!

cudamadd

Great video. It's sad that people do this for money. Must be the frist AAR cuda with out the A53 code   :'(  very more attempt so many dishonest people in this world . Thanks for posting  :australia:

Racer57

I saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?


JH27N0B

Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?
From what I've been able to figure out, AARs were supposed to have rolled inner fender aka 15" fenders, but in the end some did, some didn't.
T/As were supposedly going to have them but I've never seen one that had them.
I don't know anything about the stripe issue.

TX9AAR

Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?

My AAR didn't have the rolled fender lips.

As far as the stripes go an original stripe could have a wider 6th from the end strobe, but that would be the exception. I have 2 sets of NOS stripes, one on the car and an extra set and they don't have the wider strobe.

cuda hunter

I have been looking for an original paint aar fender with the rolled lip for some years.  I want a wall hanger so a damaged one is fine. 
 
 As far as I can tell, some got the fenders and some didn't. 
The black argent grills were also hit and miss it seems. 
  Would love to learn some rhyme or reason why they did or didn't receive the aar parts.  Always read it was just availability issues. 

"All riches begin as a state of mind and you have complete control of your mind"  -- B. Lee

TX9AAR

when we refinished my grill and head light buckes when they striped the paint they found one of the headlight buckets was originally painted argent


AAR#2

Quote from: TX9AAR on November 04, 2024, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?
Quote from: TX9AAR on November 04, 2024, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?

My AAR didn't have the rolled fender lips.

As far as the stripes go an original stripe could have a wider 6th from the end strobe, but that would be the exception. I have 2 sets of NOS stripes, one on the car and an extra set and they don't have the wider strobe.

My AAR didn't have the rolled fender lips.

As far as the stripes go an original stripe could have a wider 6th from the end strobe, but that would be the exception. I have 2 sets of NOS stripes, one on the car and an extra set and they don't have the wider strobe.

Remember that NOS stripes are not factory installed stripes, they would most likely be manufactured after the production run. This argument arises from time-to-time but I will encourage you to do some comprehensive research on your own to draw a conclusion

JH27N0B

Good timing for this video being released while the subject of AAR stripes is being discussed here

TX9AAR

Quote from: AAR#2 on Today at 08:44:41 AM
Quote from: TX9AAR on November 04, 2024, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?
Quote from: TX9AAR on November 04, 2024, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on November 04, 2024, 07:34:06 PMI saw a video not long ago that said AARs had rolled rear fender lips and the 6th strobe stripe forward of Cuda was a little wider than those on each side. True ?

My AAR didn't have the rolled fender lips.

As far as the stripes go an original stripe could have a wider 6th from the end strobe, but that would be the exception. I have 2 sets of NOS stripes, one on the car and an extra set and they don't have the wider strobe.

My AAR didn't have the rolled fender lips.

As far as the stripes go an original stripe could have a wider 6th from the end strobe, but that would be the exception. I have 2 sets of NOS stripes, one on the car and an extra set and they don't have the wider strobe.

Remember that NOS stripes are not factory installed stripes, they would most likely be manufactured after the production run. This argument arises from time-to-time but I will encourage you to do some comprehensive research on your own to draw a conclusion

My conclusion wasn't based on the 2 sets of NOS stripes that I have. There were 2 original stripe AARs at Mopars on the Mississppi this year one had the larger 6th strobe and one didn't. That along with other discussions I have seen and the video that Brad posted from Jeff Bangert make me believe that Jeff has enough data to come to the conclusion he did.  As far as assembly line stripes vs NOS I believe they were all made by 3M, they could  have changed their process so that the NOS ones that were produced with out the wider 6th strobe but have my doubts that they would change a process for a small production run of stripes