New Vehicle Laws in California

[1Burgfish]

  Thank you Nancy,Maxine,Chucky,Schiff,Moonbeam

[JH27N0B]

Well much like Chicago somebody has to pay for all the debacles and pensions that will go belly up otherwise. I cannot believe that Chicago has a tax on internet usage and I think they have one coming out for texting.

No tax on texting around here, I thought it was CA that was floating that idea?
And I don't think they have a specific tax on Internet beyond the tax on cable and telephone plans.
I live in the burbs so I don't know for sure.
But all in all I sympathize, this area is becoming unlivable too.  Taxes are getting out of control, on top of a hair below 5% income tax, I pay around 10% sales tax.  I work in a neighboring county so shop there usually where sales taxes are "only" 8%. Property taxes on my 1200 sq ft (not including the basement) house are around $6000 a year! Going up every year even though home values never recovered from 2008 and seem to be going down now. Like I said before, out of control.
With a new democrat governor coming in, there is talk of a 20-30c a gallon gas tax being an early move because it "is only fair". It's going to get a lot worse soon.
I've lived in the area my whole life, and now can't wait to move.  So do a lot of people I know. But I don't know if there is much of a market for my house now.
You guys in CA may not have it as bad as Chicago area residents?

[70 Challenger Lover]

Excellent point.

[70 Challenger Lover]

Yeah we pay about 3.50 or so out here. Went to Nashville last week and it was a full dollar per gallon cheaper. And registration runs about $80 I'm told regardless of vehicle age or value. Sure beats the $500 per car I pay now.

[71-440]

My Brother-in -law lives in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. Near Long Beach. Moved there 35+ years ago. He's leaving  this year and moving to Idaho. Says it's turned into a real Sh-hole.
My neighbor is from San Diego. She went there last year to visit her mother and was mugged in broad daylight. She couldn't believe what it turned into.

You couldn't pay me enough to go there. Sorry to all who live there but it ain't what it used to be. I was there 45 years ago and it was truly a beautiful state. Not any more.

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Well much like Chicago somebody has to pay for all the debacles and pensions that will go belly up otherwise. I cannot believe that Chicago has a tax on internet usage and I think they have one coming out for texting.

No tax on texting around here, I thought it was CA that was floating that idea?
And I don't think they have a specific tax on Internet beyond the tax on cable and telephone plans.
I live in the burbs so I don't know for sure.
But all in all I sympathize, this area is becoming unlivable too.  Taxes are getting out of control, on top of a hair below 5% income tax, I pay around 10% sales tax.  I work in a neighboring county so shop there usually where sales taxes are "only" 8%. Property taxes on my 1200 sq ft (not including the basement) house are around $6000 a year! Going up every year even though home values never recovered from 2008 and seem to be going down now. Like I said before, out of control.
With a new democrat governor coming in, there is talk of a 20-30c a gallon gas tax being an early move because it "is only fair". It's going to get a lot worse soon.
I've lived in the area my whole life, and now can't wait to move.  So do a lot of people I know. But I don't know if there is much of a market for my house now.
You guys in CA may not have it as bad as Chicago area residents?

I know more than one who's come my way (north of the border). Altho with the new Dem we have as gov... we may not be far behind

[IRON MAN]

I love it here. Ya just gotta be able to take the rain with the sunshine.Speaking of sunshine, it was 63 degrees here today and my lovely friend up the street was wearing her denim short-shorts while mowing her turf. The temperate climate here will spoil you to the point you are willing to put up with the Sacramento BS. Also, a big bonus here is all the huge car shows from Monterey Bay to Sacramento eight straight months out of the year. It is bitter sweet living here and I learned a long time ago how to work it to my advantage. 

[YellowThumper]

Yes it was California that proposed taxing texting. The federal communication killed that idea quick. Federal control not state.
Prop 13 is definately a bonus for people who own for lengthy times. 23 years in my house. What the gov sees is all the lost tax revenue.  What is not looked at is prop 13 is the reason our property values are as high as they are. My house now is over 600k. 1400 sq ft. Eliminate prop 13 and tax the masses at value. The overall values will tank and believed revenue increase will be negated.

Only so much money to go around. Especially when most of the exodus is the higher tax bracket people. All being replaced with tax burden people.

As it stands I believe it is something like 10% of the population pays 90% of the state taxes.

Mike.

[70 Challenger Lover]

We do have another wonderful thing to look forward to. I don't have all the details yet but apparently the state just created some sort of carbon tax scheme whereby a company called "Clean Power Aaliance" will be working with Edison for power distribution and revenue collection. It's supposed to be sort sort of deal to "encourage " greener energy use. The cities vote on which of the three green plans they want and the CPA collects the extra money to that cause along with the power bill each month. I scanned through it very briefly and it ringed of Enron on steroids. Can't wait until that mess comes to my town...

[1Burgfish]

  And the hits keep coming!!!

[YellowThumper]

All this in a state that already has the heaviest tax burden in the country...

I read an interesting analysis on taxation that questioned "at what level of income does the tax burden no longer benefit you"? At a certain $$$ level you keep paying in more in but are no longer getting anything in returns for your investment.
We all drive the same roads and pay for same services.

Waiting for an exodus announcement from tech companies in silicon valley. Only takes 1 and then state is insolvent again...

Perhaps Apple as they will need cash influx injection soon.

[7212Mopar]

The yellow vest movement needs to be starting here in Ca soon.

[IRON MAN]

Governor Brown's legacy is a  $6.1 BILLION budget surplus when he left office last week. Most of this money came from the gas tax. In 2018, California's economy surpassed that of the United Kingdom to become the 5th largest economy in the world. This attracts a lot of talent and money. There are far more people moving to California than leaving. People are coming here to join the parade, or as my brother in Huntington Beach says "Chasing the rainbow."

[7212Mopar]

New propositions just passed to raise more gas tax and bridge tolls to collect more to pay for road improvements and rapid transits even with tax surplus from Brown. The toll roads prevalent in SCal is coming to NCal. Everything is just great and what a pretty picture.

[1Burgfish]