New Vehicle Laws in California

[ledphoot]

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

[70 Challenger Lover]

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

Wherever you go, make sure it is not a popular state for California retirees like Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Texas. All those states have changed dramatically with the migration of liberal Californians. As much as people in California talk about hating their politicians, they still have a warped idea of how things should be. The result is they take their twisted views with them to other states and start voting there based on that. Years later, all of these great states have become infected with California values brought in by California retirees. There are few states anymore that don't wrestle with the influx of shitty California values in one way or another.

The key is picking a state that is not only conservative but also off of everyone's radar as places to retire in. A few years ago, we decided we were going to Tennessee and our plan hasn't changed. Unfortunately, it is now becoming the new state millions want to retire to. Really sad...five years ago everyone said yuck when I mentioned it but now those same people are wanting to go there. I really don't want my fellow Californians to go there. I guess I can expect it to someday go down the tubes as well.

[RUNCHARGER]

There's something about the Pacific Ocean that can wreak havoc with peoples common sense.

[Katfish]

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

Wherever you go, make sure it is not a popular state for California retirees like Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Texas. All those states have changed dramatically with the migration of liberal Californians. As much as people in California talk about hating their politicians, they still have a warped idea of how things should be. The result is they take their twisted views with them to other states and start voting there based on that. Years later, all of these great states have become infected with California values brought in by California retirees. There are few states anymore that don't wrestle with the influx of shitty California values in one way or another.

The key is picking a state that is not only conservative but also off of everyone's radar as places to retire in. A few years ago, we decided we were going to Tennessee and our plan hasn't changed. Unfortunately, it is now becoming the new state millions want to retire to. Really sad...five years ago everyone said yuck when I mentioned it but now those same people are wanting to go there. I really don't want my fellow Californians to go there. I guess I can expect it to someday go down the tubes as well.

Interesting point of view.  Living in Florida I have wondered about a similar issue.  We have an influx of people fleeing all kinds of economic and political oppression.  Yet they refuse to assimilate and try to bring the same failed political and social views they fled from.

[70 Challenger Lover]

I truly believe that. I know lots of them (family, friends, coworkers) who have left the state for greener pastures but refuse to adopt conservative values.

My wife's aunt in particular is the most hard core liberal I've ever even heard of. Makes Pelosi seem conservative by comparison. She moved to Georgia a few years ago because the taxes in Chicago were crushing them. When she got to Georgia, she immediately started campaigning in her area for more welfare for the poor. Partway into our conversation about her crusade, she commented about how she should have bought in the next county over because they had a much lower property tax rate. Of course I pointed out that she must swell with pride knowing her extra tax dollars are going to a noble cause. She actually had the balls to tell me that she shouldn't have to pay more because her government pension was only $80k a year but anyone making more than that should pay more in taxes. After all, it's only fair she stated. Apparently 80k is where she draws the line and she conveniently has not crossed it yet. I have discovered that all hard core liberals can be identified by the simple thought process of, "Everyone should pay more in taxes....except me because I am different."

[Chryco Psycho]

Everyone wants change but no wants to change

[ledphoot]

they're like a scourge of locusts.... they never learn.

[JH27N0B]

Many people from here in IL are fleeing to Tennessee.  They are calling them economic refugees now!
I don't know if they are bringing the plague of this state's entrenched corrupt political values with them.  But if I was a native tennessean, I'd be concerned.
My sights are on Indiana. It's difficult to pull up roots when you've lived in the same area for most or all of your life.  If I go to northwest Indiana I'll be near where I've been my life.  And Indiana is well located to attend many car events in IL, MI, OH etc.

[ledphoot]

Many people from here in IL are fleeing to Tennessee.  They are calling them economic refugees now!
I don't know if they are bringing the plague of this state's entrenched corrupt political values with them.  But if I was a native tennessean, I'd be concerned.
My sights are on Indiana. It's difficult to pull up roots when you've lived in the same area for most or all of your life.  If I go to northwest Indiana I'll be near where I've been my life.  And Indiana is well located to attend many car events in IL, MI, OH etc.

We have an office in Fort Wayne Indiana, seems like a nice enough place. Been there four times in the last year. The guys are telling me it's awfully cold right now Get a good jacket, snow blower and 4x4 People seem friendly enough.

[71-440]

Georgia has changed too since I moved here twenty years ago. They almost elected  a Marxist governor here.

Very few places left that the disease hasn't reached.

[YellowThumper]

Not quoting previous statements due to lengths. But do agree with most said.

As far as taxes are concerned. I read an interesting statement/question about them.
At what price and income level do the upper wealthy no longer get additional services they are paying for? We all use the same roads and infrastructure. It is unfortunate that success has been vilified as being evil. This mentality has been coming all the way from the president. Drive to success is what built this country.

[Morty426]

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

680 wasn't crowded?  How old were you at the time, 5?  680 has been a living hell since the late 70s.  In the early 80s they did a study to determine how wide it needed to be to accommodate the traffic.  The answer was 17 lanes.  It's still not as bad as the pure hell that is the 10 miles that are 237. 

As for H1B the majority of those people I know are renters.  Two of the smartest  people I know work at Apple on a H1B and one is from Ireland and the other from The Congo.  As for the housing I think it's more old school silicone valley people like my boss and his dad who have 24 rental properties between them. 

NetApp - I used to work one of their suppliers, Xyratex.  What a nightmare the relationship between those companies.

I see you are Escalon, is Boat Country still there?  I bought my first Malibu there. 

[HP_Cuda]

Amen brother, I live in Cupertino so I think you can guess how I feel about these lovely programs to insulate our tech companies from paying fair wages. Trump did promise to do away with the H1B program and gee I wonder what happened? The original intent of the H1B program is to bring folks from all over the world not 80%+ from one country and those folks don't assimilate well.

I've got a couple nice states picked out which I will not say as to avoid libtards from following me. You want to know the problem with both liberals and republicans? They both still promise free crap and push our debt levels even higher (21T now). When the balloon finally pops folks will be quite surprised how their lives will change. Just like a household you cannot keep spending more than you bring in, it will catch up with you.

My time here is quickly drawing to a close.

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

[ledphoot]

California Native of 47 years. I remember when everything around "Silicon Valley" was farms and orchards, when it wasn't crowded, when highway 85 didn't exist, Highway 280/680 weren't crowded, when you went out at night you could drive without seeing another car on the highway.

Things have changed RADICALLY in the last 25 years. The demographics have changed dramatically due abuse of H1B Visa programs by the tech companies, lots of money from China / India buying up property in Fremont / Milpitas / Sunnyvale since the mid 90's. etc. This has driven housing costs through the roof. I do not begrudge these people from coming here, many of my friends came here on H1B status, but when I look at the demographic shift at my former employer, NetApp, I can see quite clearly what has happened. This is not healthy for our children as they are being priced out of work by foreign competition.

Trump campaigned on stopping the H1B abuse and now he is talking about H2B Visas in negotiations for the wall!!!!! SMH that guy. It doesn't matter who the politician is, they are all liars and will all give you a good railing, without lube or a kiss first.

This state has become an epic sh*thole, but I am stuck here for at least the next 13 years, at which point I hope to be getting out to Boise Idaho, Bozeman Montana or someplace else that still respects the constitution and the rights of the individual. Let's just hope this place holds together for that long...

680 wasn't crowded?  How old were you at the time, 5?  680 has been a living hell since the late 70s.  In the early 80s they did a study to determine how wide it needed to be to accommodate the traffic.  The answer was 17 lanes.  It's still not as bad as the pure hell that is the 10 miles that are 237. 

As for H1B the majority of those people I know are renters.  Two of the smartest  people I know work at Apple on a H1B and one is from Ireland and the other from The Congo.  As for the housing I think it's more old school silicone valley people like my boss and his dad who have 24 rental properties between them. 

NetApp - I used to work one of their suppliers, Xyratex.  What a nightmare the relationship between those companies.

I see you are Escalon, is Boat Country still there?  I bought my first Malibu there.

Yeah I was a kid, but my memory is clear as day of going with my mom in her Chrysler Town & Country Wagon, from Sunnyvale to Pleasanton where my father was selling houses....

Many many H1B's are renters, thus the lack of rental property in the valley. The apartment complex I lived in at Fair Oaks and El Camino when I was 19 with a roommate is now almost entirely taken over by H1B holders, four to a unit. I don't begrudge them... It's the companies and the politicians I take issue with.

I actually have a home in Escalon and one in Boulder Creek.. I believe the boat shop is still downtown, I will make a trip through there next time I head out to the ranchette.

[1Burgfish]

  You know what I really love about the Dems? I love how they have their town halls and preach how the rich have to pay more in taxes up to 70% more; then I apply common sense to what they just said and tell myself:  I know they have been in Washington since the first corner stone of the White house was set so they should be very rich now; my question to them if I was in one of those town hall meetings would be are you prepared to lead by example and tax yourself 70% first? Just like the Health Care debacle did Nancy sign up for the famous health care she campaigned so hard for? Short answer No they made sure they had a loophole so they wouldn't be penalized for not signing up for it. Gotta love them swap creatures.