Understanding what these holes are...

[anlauto]

So what's the question ?
Are ALL St. Louis Blues cars "BP" cars ?

How many are known to exist ?

[6bblgt]

Did you make this off of what we know about other blues cars?  Or is this from some valid source?   When I bought my car there was no fender tag and no build sheet...

I made this - AFAIK there are at least 14 "Blue's 'cudas" they have sequential VINs & VONs - they are identical GRAN COUPES - I have original fender tag info for 3 of them

[Filthy Filbert]

So what's the question ?
Are ALL St. Louis Blues cars "BP" cars ?

How many are known to exist ?

He answered it.  Thank you.

[Filthy Filbert]

Did you make this off of what we know about other blues cars?  Or is this from some valid source?   When I bought my car there was no fender tag and no build sheet...

I made this - AFAIK there are at least 14 "Blue's 'cudas" they have sequential VINs & VONs - they are identical GRAN COUPES - I have original fender tag info for 3 of them

Thanks.  Of the 3 that you have info for, are they optioned identically?   And are the build orders sequential?  Do the actual build dates line up?  My door sticker said 9-69.

Do you have the info on the car that Terry in Kentucky bought?   The wrecked car?   He gave me a copy of his fender tag at one point but I never paid much attention because I figured there was no way to know if they were all identically optioned or not.  But if 3-4 of the BP are available and they are identical then it's safe to say that all of the blues BP cars are identical.

Now, I had read that there were 8-10 BP23L0B blues cars, but another 40-50 BH23G cars (318s... that's a G code, right?).  Is that still the belief?

[cuda hunter]

Can you post the fender tag info from the Kentucky car?
That would shed some light on the question. 
Is it identical to the tag Dan posted? 

[Filthy Filbert]

Can you post the fender tag info from the Kentucky car?
That would shed some light on the question. 
Is it identical to the tag Dan posted?

I will have to dig up the info.  It's in a tub somewhere, after 3 household moves...   Now you can start to see why the project has been stalled out for...over 10 years

I  was curious if the car owned by Terry in Kentucky was one of the ones that Dan has already @6bblgt

[6bblgt]

a vintage newspaper article states: 9 St Louis "metro-market" dealerships involved in providing 25 special Barracudas for players, coaches & mangers
- these 25 cars were parked together on display at home games for the St. Louis Blues NHL hockey team during the 1969-'70 season to promote the "official car of the Blues"
--- the first "home game" was 10/11/69 & the final "home Stanley Cup game" was 5/5/70, St Louis lost the championship to the Boston Buins

from my research / in my opinion:
there are 3 groups of "promotional" Barracudas/Gran Coupes scheduled in September 1969 - ALL have "M022xx" VONs
1st group - "FE5" red 318 Gran Coupes with black vinyl interior and F&R elastomeric bumpers (UNKNOWN promotion) 919 SPD
2nd group - "FK5" burnt orange 318 Barracudas with white bench interior (UNKNOWN promotion) 924 SPD
3rd group - "EW1/EB5" white & blue 383 2bbl Gran Coupes with blue vinyl interior (ST LOUIS BLUES promotion) 924 SPD

BP23L0B132716 with M02251 thru BP23L0B132732 with M02267 are 17 consecutive VINs & VONs for St Louis Blues Gran Coupes
BP23L0B133xxx is an identical ordered Gran Coupe "scheduled" on the same day with a "normal" VON: 049221 / 924 SPD

the above would account for 18 "Blues 'cudas", my guess would be the above sequential run is 7 additional cars longer
I'd bet the claimed "318 Blues 'cuda" is just a two-tone Barracuda in the same color combo with NO evidence it was sold new in St. Louis 

[6bblgt]

I  was curious if the car owned by Terry in Kentucky was one of the ones that Dan has already

I couldn't find a fender tag picture, but the KY Gran Coupe is BP23L0B132725

[anlauto]

I'd bet the claimed "318 Blues 'cuda" is just a two-tone Barracuda in the same color combo with NO evidence it was sold new in St. Louis 

Really throw a wrench into it, if some fans starting ordering cars in the same colour combo, even living in the same area...

[6bblgt]

I'd bet the claimed "318 Blues 'cuda" is just a two-tone Barracuda in the same color combo with NO evidence it was sold new in St. Louis 

Really throw a wrench into it, if some fans starting ordering cars in the same colour combo, even living in the same area...

it is a "SALES BANK" car "Y16"

[Filthy Filbert]

I couldn't find a fender tag picture, but the KY Gran Coupe is BP23L0B132725

Yup.   Terry did not give me a photograph of it, but wrote out all the codes on it.  Sounds like you already have the same info though?   

It's a neat story how I came to learn all of this myself.   One day, at the BX at Barksdale AFB back in 2004, maybe 2005...I picked up a copy of Mopar Collector's guide.   Casually flipping through it.  Completely by chance, I landed on a page of classifieds in the back and my eye was drawn to an ad.  "I am looking for my numbers matching motor...BP23L0B132725" and it had his phone number.   I remember reading across the VIN and thinking "holy crap, this is MY vin....oh, the last 2 are different...but that's neat! I should call this guy"   

I bought that issue, but then never called him.

about a year or 2 later, I was talking to Barry Washington who was putting together the registry of Hamtramck cars, and he said 'I got nuthin on your car, but I do have info on one that's 6 away from yours.  Its a St Louis Blues car, a little known promotion done in 1970.   You should look for evidence of blue/white paint or blue interior on your car"

that's when it all clicked.   The black interior that was painted blue, the primer under the orange paint that was under the red paint wasn't primer, but white paint.  Pulled the chrome gutter trim and saw the blue and white paint masking line...

That's when I finally called Terry and spoke to him about his car, and he sent me the info he had available, as well as a photo-copy of the mopar collectors guide issue that discussed the blues cars with the feature on the 318 car that is now apparently, NOT part of the promotion.   

I wonder what the VIN is of that 318 car. 

[6bblgt]

I wonder what the VIN is of that 318 car.

https://showroom.auction123.com/overstreet_house_of_cars/inventory/9508/1970/PLYMOUTH/BARRACUDA/BH23G0B154796.html
& they didn't quite get the VIN correct    BH23G0B196547 VS BH23G0B154796 (& 0B154796 would've been a Challenger)

- I find it a little ODD - BH23G0B196547 is carrying the "St Louis Blues 'cuda" FLAG ( & it may not be legit original promotional car ?? )

but
St Louis Blues Gran Coupe BP23L0B132716 is a "lime-light" 'cuda clone
St Louis Blues Gran Coupe BP23L0B132732 is an "in-violet" 'cuda clone

[Filthy Filbert]

Oh wow...so 60,000 cars later on the assembly line...

So I need to amend my story when I talk about the car...  Of these blue and whites, there's at least 14, and maybe as many as 25 BP23L0B's

Would be neat to get as many as possible back together for a photo shoot.   I will be painting mine blue/white, although maybe not factory versions of the colors.  I may add some pearl or metal flake to the white, and use a more modern blue, maybe like the one that my Dakota is painted, "Intense Blue Pearl Coat"   along with a modern driveline, upgraded wheels and brakes, etc.    non-original hood (flat?...YUCK! )   

How and where did you get all the information you do have?  Just curious.

[Mr Cuda]

Now you need gran coupe  rocker mouldings.
I have one with clips and the unique screws. In really nice condition.

[6bblgt]

How and where did you get all the information you do have?  Just curious.

just collecting & compiling info for decades ......    & what's wrong with a "flat" hood?