WARNING RE-BODIED FAKE V CODE 1970 CUDA ON THE MARKET VIN NUMBER BS23V0B159582

[JH27N0B]

80K is all the money for a 70 cuda V code automatic, so I doubt very much the buyer knew about the rebody issues on the car. And seeing how the Mecum listing shows the same underside picture that was shown in the car's online listing, I bet the same seller consigned it to the auction.
It's most likely illegal, at best it's unethical to sell this car.  But sadly based on this case the buyer might be screwed and Dana won't make things right-
https://www.leagle.com/decision/infdco20170403c31
There was a hemi cuda with issues sold at Mecum a few years ago that he did buy back, and later I saw it at another of his auctions with the VIN and tags removed being sold as bill of sale only.  Mecum had a falling out with Galen Govier and barred Galen from his auctions afterwards after Galen outed a rebodied or fake car at a Mecum auction. Not sure if that vin removed hemi cuda was the same car that caused the fallout? I doubt they want cars with sketchy histories in the auctions, but when it happens, it doesn't look like they will make things "right". 

[anlauto]

I agree, but we don't know the details. I would hope anybody willing to spend $80K on a car would do a little investigation....A simple Google search of the VIN would tell the whole story.

[HEMICUDA]

anlauto YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL BUT WIPE! If you know its a re-bodied car and advertised as such is one thing. To pay top dollar for what you think is a real car is nothing short of fraud. 

You spend 80k+ on a mopar you think is real then find out its not, maybe then you will see that it is WRONG!

I attempted to contact Mecum today after I discovered the car went live but got a answering machine. I will follow up Monday.

the more people to contact Mecum the better. Several voices are heard better than just one.

Name calling is great, welcome to the site

Unless you know the seller and the buyer personally and have direct knowledge of what they were thinking when they bought the car or how much they knew when they sold the car, your opinion of the car doesn't really matter. Mecum also has a disclosure stating that they are selling the car based on information provided by the seller, not by you. Do we know if the guy who sold it at Mecum is the same guy that sold it to you ?

It's quite possible the seller believed the car was legit when he bought it, as you did, so he sold it the same way...and it's very possible the new owner is happy as can be buying a cool looking car...
Do you ever wonder why nice clones or modified cars go for good money....it's because there is a huge buying market out there of people with money who don't care whatsoever about this numbers stuff...

It's amazing how you "sugar coat" everything and put the blame everywhere else.  You have been a proponent of re-bodies ever since you had someone else replace 90% of the sheet metal on the "barrel Cuda" and posted it on the internet bragging about it.  Do you have any clue the law here in the US?  If you represent a car as legit and it's not, the punitive damages are 3x the purchase price.  That's exactly why Barrett Jackson contracts a "real" MOPAR expert to inspect every MOPAR before any auction. 

So, go ahead Alan, I'm sure you have a rational response that makes total sense to you.

[Spikedog08]

I see we can't go too long without the same drama from the same members . . . I just don't understand???  What is wrong with you all??

@plum crazy rt   . .  Name calling is definitely not allowed here . . Keep that shit to yourself.  Consider yourself warned. 
@HEMICUDA  drama starting again?   And follow up with personal attacks . . Banned for 1 week. You have already been warned . . .

[plum crazy rt]

UPDATE- I contacted Mecum today and talked to a person at there resolution department.

Mecum was NOT AWARE of the back history on the 1970 Cuda vin number BS23V0B159582 that had the vin numbers illegally re-stamped, there fore neither was the winning bidder.

The representative at Mecum assured me that they are going to look into and  investigate the vin number discrepancy. The Mecum representative was additament that from there position this is bad business and they are going to look into having the car pulled.

I will keep everyone updated as events transpire. I only hope that they do the right thing.

see this thread for the complete back story.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/cuda-and-challenger-general-discussion-roseville-moparts/2/warning-re-bodied-fake-v-code-1970-cuda-on-the-market-vin-number-bs23v0b159582/11780/

[RUNCHARGER]

Good job. No one wants a fake car for real money.

[JH27N0B]

Thanks for your effort exposing this car's issues.  If info on all fake and rebodied cars was posted enough on the internet, maybe the people that try to profit off doing this would find they couldn't get away with it and stop!

[plum crazy rt]

PICTURE OF THE TITLE WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR AS WELL AS VIN RE-STAMP

[RUNCHARGER]

Fraud.

[JS29]

Hope the cosigner gets hit with a felony  I read through the advertisement and it did not indicate anything but a real deal V code cuda. 

[Morty426]

80K is all the money for a 70 cuda V code automatic, so I doubt very much the buyer knew about the rebody issues on the car.

I know of a 70 V code automatic that sold for 105K, however that car was near perfect.  Not a hack like this car.

[plum crazy rt]

UPDATE!!

I JUST RECIEVED CONFIRMATION FROM MECUM THAT THEY PULLED THE CAR!

The winning bidder/buyer had no idea that the car was a fake! As you can imagine the buyer was very relieved that I contacted Mecum.

Im so happy to hear that Mecum did the right thing and pulled the Cuda with out hesitation.

Because the seller is so dishonest, I will reach out to Barret Jackson incase he tries them next.

My work here is done, for now... What a long time consuming and endeavor this has been.

Hopefully any body else thinking of trying to pass off a fake re vin numbered car will think twice after reading this entire thread! 


IF ANY BODY SEES THIS CAR COME UP FOR SALE/AUCTION IN THE FUTURE PLEASE CONTACT ME OR SIMPLY REPLY TO THIS THREAD!

[JS29]

    :twothumbsup:Good job.

[750-h2]

Yes good work!  As far as Barret Jackson goes they are likely worse than Mecum when it comes to selling rebodied cars. Remember the 1971 FC7 Hemi Cuda convertible they sold in 2013 for 1.2 million. The restorer started with nothing more than a firewall! He did however find the original motor and bill of sale. The whole Mopar internet community was talking about this rebodied car for months prior to the auction, yet Barret Jackson never mentioned any of this when they sold the car??

[JH27N0B]

I did an Internet search of this cudas VIN and found something about it being scheduled for one of the Arizona auctions back in 2018.