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Started by bentpshrods, February 10, 2018, 01:29:38 PM

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Chryco Psycho

As a side note I always use mechanical pumps But I always modify them , I take them apart & drill out the restricted ares in the casting , behind the threads where the fuel line fittings are installed the casting can restrict down to less than 1/4" ID , not much point in using 3/8" line when the pump is not even 5/16" inside , I enlarge the hole to the maximum without damaging the threads , , there is also a hole inside that should be opened up too .

Cudakiller70

I'm going electric because of fuel bowl evaporation. Not sure if it's just a Krazyfornia gas mixture problem or not.
CP is right about size, that's what I'm finding with some fittings.

Shane Kelley

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on March 06, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
As a side note I always use mechanical pumps But I always modify them , I take them apart & drill out the restricted ares in the casting , behind the threads where the fuel line fittings are installed the casting can restrict down to less than 1/4" ID , not much point in using 3/8" line when the pump is not even 5/16" inside , I enlarge the hole to the maximum without damaging the threads , , there is also a hole inside that should be opened up too .

I never noticed that. Is that on the Carter mechanical pumps?


Chryco Psycho

Carter & Holly mechanical pumps that can be disassembled

rdf

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I have a similar question that I'm hoping to find the answer to.  1973 440 stroked to a 499 and it needs a fuel pump.  After reading a lot of threads (including this one), I think it's best I go with a mechanical pump.  That being said, if I google Carter Performance Fuel Pumps or something similar (Holley, etc.) then I get a wide array of different models to choose from.  How do I know which is the correct one for my motor?  For instance, this Google search on Carter returns many results, all having numerous model numbers:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Carter+muscle+car+series+mechanical+fuel+pump
If we never drown we'll never know how well it tastes...so tell me how it tastes and I'll know just how well you drowned.

Chryco Psycho

Only 2 on the top row Holley or Carter
https://www.manciniracing.com/search-results.html?catalog=chucker54&query=449+fuel+pump+&Submit=Search
Check with Dave @ Roseville he may even be able to get a discount , I know he deals with Mancini
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

rdf

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on May 08, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

Why?  What's the significance of this?


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If we never drown we'll never know how well it tastes...so tell me how it tastes and I'll know just how well you drowned.


Brads70

Quote from: rdf on May 08, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on May 08, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

Why?  What's the significance of this?


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Somewhat common for the pushrod to wear down not allowing enough stroke on the fuel pump , making people think the fuel pump is bad. :wave:

1 Wild R/T

Quote from: Brads70 on May 08, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: rdf on May 08, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on May 08, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

Why?  What's the significance of this?


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Somewhat common for the pushrod to wear down not allowing enough stroke on the fuel pump , making people think the fuel pump is bad. :wave:

Yeah, and the replacement sold by Mopar Performance wears down allot quicker than the original so IMO I find a original with no measurable wear....

rdf

Quote from: Brads70 on May 08, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: rdf on May 08, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on May 08, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

Why?  What's the significance of this?


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Somewhat common for the pushrod to wear down not allowing enough stroke on the fuel pump , making people think the fuel pump is bad. :wave:

Ok, so this won't really apply to me cause my motor hasn't been turned over since being built 8 years ago.


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If we never drown we'll never know how well it tastes...so tell me how it tastes and I'll know just how well you drowned.

Brads70

Quote from: rdf on May 08, 2019, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on May 08, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: rdf on May 08, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on May 08, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Make sure you check the pushrod length while you are in there  :bigthumb:

Why?  What's the significance of this?


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Somewhat common for the pushrod to wear down not allowing enough stroke on the fuel pump , making people think the fuel pump is bad. :wave:

Ok, so this won't really apply to me cause my motor hasn't been turned over since being built 8 years ago.


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Should be ok , easy enough to check though just to put your mind at ease should be 3.250" long I believe.....


chargerdon

make sure the problem isnt simply a vapor lock type of problem.   In both my 66 Charger with 4V 383, and my 74 challenger with small block 360, i moved the rubber fuel line to around to back firewall then over to the carb, .because in HOT weather on a full wot run, i could run out of fuel after about 5 secs...   moved the line and problem goes away... 

I also had a holley blue 14psi electric pump on my 66 charger and a fuel regulator and hated the damn thing because it was NOISY as hell.  It also had the problem of fuel starvation on a full wot run in hot weather until i moved the line.   

Chryco Psycho

This would be assuming that the pushrod was checked or changed 8 years ago , often they were never removed in the last 50 years

RUNCHARGER

Yes: It's actually something to be checked on yearly maintenance.
Sheldon