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Which Model Cars Were My Engine and Transmission Originally Installed In?

Started by B5 Six Pack, December 23, 2017, 07:38:56 PM

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B5 Six Pack

My 1973 Cuda has a 440 and a 4 speed that were installed in it several owners back. The engine castings/stampings reveal that it was installed in a 1970 model year vehicle assembled at the old Jefferson Ave plant. The transmission was installed in a 1970 model year vehicle assembled at the Lynch Road plant. I think that Jefferson Ave was building C bodies in 1970, and Lynch Road was building B bodies. Is this correct? Is there anyway to narrow down which specific car or car model they were originally installed in using the partial VIN's on these two parts? It makes little/no difference value wise, but I find the history interesting. Thanks.

xx88man

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B5 Six Pack

Quote from: xx88man on December 23, 2017, 08:27:58 PM
Can you post the VIN stampings for the engine and trans?


Engine: OC XXXXXX  O=1970, C=Jefferson Ave and XXXXXX = the last 6 numbers ( sequence) of the VIN
Trans: OA XXXXXX O=1970 A= Lynch Road and XXXXXX = last 6 numbers of the VIN

And no, I don't have the engine or trans that belongs in your car, lol. :D


Cuda Cody

If you post the VINs @6bblgt might be able to tell you what they were originally in.  He's really good with Hamtramck and LA, but it's worth a shot to see what he knows about those plants.

anlauto

Without the last six numbers of the VIN, nobody going to be able to narrow it down for you...
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
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B5 Six Pack

Quote from: anlauto on December 24, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
Without the last six numbers of the VIN, nobody going to be able to narrow it down for you...

:ohyeah: That's the gist of my question. Can anything useful be determined from the last 6 numbers, and if so, how? Thanks.

B5 Six Pack

Cody, I just saw your post. Thanks for spelling it out.  :worship:

Engine OC 197198 assembled May 15, 1970

Trans OA 113392 assembled August 21, 1969


anlauto

Quote from: B5 Six Pack on December 24, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Quote from: anlauto on December 24, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
Without the last six numbers of the VIN, nobody going to be able to narrow it down for you...

:ohyeah: That's the gist of my question. Can anything useful be determined from the last 6 numbers, and if so, how? Thanks.

People with extensive registries or years of studying these cars can basically make assumptions based on other cars assembled around your VIN....not an exact science, but a very educated guess...
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

B5 Six Pack

Quote from: anlauto on December 24, 2017, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: B5 Six Pack on December 24, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Quote from: anlauto on December 24, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
Without the last six numbers of the VIN, nobody going to be able to narrow it down for you...

:ohyeah: That's the gist of my question. Can anything useful be determined from the last 6 numbers, and if so, how? Thanks.

People with extensive registries or years of studying these cars can basically make assumptions based on other cars assembled around your VIN....not an exact science, but a very educated guess...

Great info, thanks. I'm blown away by the knowledge available here. :twothumbsup:

6bblgt

440 Engine 0C197198 assembled May 15, 1970

I don't have enough to narrow it down between a Chrysler & an Imperial, is it stamped "HP"?
Do you have pics available of the VIN & top pad stampings - 0C197198 would've been built late February 1970.  :huh:

4-speed Trans 0A113392 assembled August 21, 1969

0A113392 was an early September '69 scheduled Plymouth B-body (Road Runner, GTX, etc.) do you know if it is 18- or 23-spline?

B5 Six Pack

Quote from: 6bblgt on December 24, 2017, 12:09:02 PM
440 Engine 0C197198 assembled May 15, 1970

I don't have enough to narrow it down between a Chrysler & an Imperial, is it stamped "HP"?
Do you have pics available of the VIN & top pad stampings - 0C197198 would've been built late February 1970.  :huh:

4-speed Trans 0A113392 assembled August 21, 1969

0A113392 was an early September '69 scheduled Plymouth B-body (Road Runner, GTX, etc.) do you know if it is 18- or 23-spline?

WOW! Amazing! You passed my unintentional "test', lol. I should have known not to trust my memory at my age.  You are correct on late February for the engine. I rechecked the top pad and the correct assembly date is February 26, 1970. Besides the 2 26, the only things on the top pad is F440 . No HP.  The balancer is the non weighted type such as were used on an internally balanced 350 hp/ steel crank engine.
I don't know if the trans is an 18 or 23 spline. Thanks for taking time to check this out and post.  :cheers: