Andy's 'cuda

[JS29]

What size radiator, I have A 26" upper hose I can donate.

I'm pretty darn sure it's a 3 core 26" Radiator.
I greatly appreciate the help!

Thanks!
Dan Zimmermann   I will start the search!!!!! will let you know as soon as I lay eyes on it.    


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[Dmz73]

Update 6-1-18

We have collectively decided to forgo the Serpentine belt system in favor of a traditional belt and bracket system.
We had a mix of 6 groove and 7 groove and can't seem to locate the Serpentine belt kit setup either.

We have a correct power steering pump



I have Mopar Dave pulling the brackets and pulleys for the standard 440 system- we had 200 donated the other day, and Warren Hoy donated a check, so we should be good there!
Thanks guys!!! [emoji120]

Needed:
Pre-bent complete Brake line system (galvanized ok)
Power steering pump pressure hose
Radiator to thermostat housing hose
Brake booster to intake manifold hose
Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses

Rear drum rebuild kit for 10" drums:


Coolant overflow bottle bracket

Gonna need some help on this one:


Not only is the 440 air gap IM too tall, but It looks like there is a crack in the IM where this vacuum nipple is supposed to go. Pls advise.
I sincerely doubt we would be able to close the hood once the air cleaner assy is on!


Also needed:
Starter relay (fastened to the driver fender apron)

Most of the rest of the parts are there-
We went through a ton of stuff today!
Thanks again!

Dan Zimmermann




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[Dmz73]

Needed: correct single groove Alternator for a 440.

Here are some pics of some of the parts on the table!








Spare low profile manifold



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[Brads70]

I think that carb spacer can go, not needed as far as I know.

[Dmz73]

I think that carb spacer can go, not needed as far as I know.

Ha! I didn't notice it Till you mentioned it!
Thanks man!


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[Chryco Psycho]

Usually you will need to clearance the choke well for the secondary linkage a little which I recommend over using the spacer

[Bullitt-]

Needed:
Pre-bent complete Brake line system (galvanized ok)
Power steering pump pressure hose
Radiator to thermostat housing hose
Brake booster to intake manifold hose
Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses

Rear drum rebuild kit for 10" drums:


Pre-bent complete Brake line system (galvanized ok)
       Dr Diff has standard for $50 or SS for $70 + $10 for clip set
     http://www.doctordiff.com/front-to-rear-brake-line-selector.html

Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses
      I'm guessing the rear hose is needed as well. 3-pcs from Rockauto are $54 + ride
   May also need 3-clips  https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1133395&jsn=452
      I chose to use Russel SS braided on my '73 which required getting a brass block from   an earlier model, total cost $94 
Dr Diff has those as well as the vent bolt to hold to rear housing
     http://www.doctordiff.com/rear-flex-hose-to-hard-line-brass-tee.html
     http://www.doctordiff.com/mopar-rearend-vent-bolt.html
   Best price on Russell 694050  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russell-694050-Street-Legal-Brake-Line-Assembly/323201988965?epid=179685341&hash=item4b4056f965:g:zoMAAOSwroZazQfM

or braded lines with tee can be ordered from Dr Diff for $110.
http://www.doctordiff.com/stainless-steel-rear-brake-hose-w-tee.html
http://www.doctordiff.com/stainless-front-brake-flex-hose-kit.html

Rear drum rebuild kit for 10" drums:
      Dr Diff has a complete kit includes cylinders (needed?
) sans shoes $75 , the same pieces can be had through Rockauto for about $41 http://www.doctordiff.com/10-x-2-1-2-drum-brake-rebuild-kit.html
      Are Shoes or pads not needed? ....  A Front hardware kit?  Front pins?

Power steering pump pressure hose
    The pump # I researched previously would make me think the '74 hose would be the one but my '73 has the flair on one end like the '70 ANYONE?...
    GATES 355850   for '74 Barracuda 360  $18. Rockauto
OE Comparison Rating   OE Performance
Length (In)   38.25
End 1 Diameter (in)   .3125
End 1 Type   Male O-Ring
End 2 Diameter (in)   .375
End 2 Type   Male O-Ring
Includes Switch Port   No
    GATES 352830  for '70 Barracuda 440 W/Saginaw Power Steering Pump $18 Rockauto
OE Comparison Rating   OE Performance
Length (In)   36
End 1 Diameter (in)   .3125
End 1 Type   Female SAE
End 2 Diameter (in)   .375
End 2 Type   Male Inverted Flare
Includes Switch Port   No

appears the '73 is a hybrid of the two... listing just in case
GATES 356360 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Info
W/Saginaw Power Steering Pump
OE Comparison Rating   OE Performance
Length (In)   38.3125
End 1 Diameter (in)   .3125
End 1 Type   Male O-Ring
End 2 Diameter (in)   .375
End 2 Type   Male Inverted Flare
Includes Switch Port   No

Radiator to thermostat housing hose
   I see these are the generic fit's all versions. (see below)
     For '70 Barracuda 440  Rockauto      Which ONE?
     GATES 25478 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Flexible (Standard) Info  One of our most popular parts
Fitsw/Air Conditioning
Or W/Xtra Cooling
      GATES 25480 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Flexible (Standard) Info  One of our most popular parts
w/o Air Conditioning; w/ Standard Cooling

Checked NAPA for OE fit & they also list two
PART #
NBH 7392 (sames as Gates 20630 ) https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2339&jsn=3
1970 Dodge Challenger
Engines: 7.2 L 440 CID V8
Comments: w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning
Important Information: (I'm thinking 26" radiator) w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning
Centerline Length (in)   16
Centerline Length (mm)   406 mm
Hose I.D. (in)   1.5 in.
Hose Steel Coil   No
I.D. (Inches)   1.5"
I.D. 1 (in)   1.5
I.D. 1 (mm)   38 mm
Includes Spring   No
Length (Inches)   16 in.
Type   Molded Coolant Hose
UNSPSC   40142000

PART #
NBH 7164 (sames as Gates 20370  ) https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2251&jsn=12
1970 Dodge Challenger
Engines: 7.2 L 440 CID V8
Comments: w/o Air Conditioning;w/ Standard Cooling;@Cut to Length
mportant Information: ( I'm thinking 22" radiator) w/o Air Conditioning;w/ Standard Cooling;@Cut to Length@
Centerline Length (in)   17
Centerline Length (mm)   432 mm
Hose I.D. (in)   1.5 in.
Hose Steel Coil   No
I.D. (Inches)   1.5"
I.D. 1 (in)   1.5
I.D. 1 (mm)   38 mm
Includes Spring   No
Length (Inches)   17 in.
Type   Molded Coolant Hose
UNSPSC   40142000

Brake booster to intake manifold hose
   Generic item... anyone know the size?
   

[BIGSHCLUNK]

As I recall the rear shoes we had were incorrect. I think Murray struggled with those awhile. I found a starter relay in my garage, where should I send it too?

[HP_Cuda]

Neil - can you work with Bullit and answer all his questions so we can make a list to order from?

Usually you will need to clearance the choke well for the secondary linkage a little which I recommend over using the spacer

[Dmz73]

As I recall the rear shoes we had were incorrect. I think Murray struggled with those awhile. I found a starter relay in my garage, where should I send it too?

Thanks BIGS!!
Please send it to
Cathy Knox
19600 W Old US Hwy 12,  Chelsea ,  Mi  48118

Dan


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[Dmz73]

Needed:
Pre-bent complete Brake line system (galvanized ok)
Power steering pump pressure hose
Radiator to thermostat housing hose
Brake booster to intake manifold hose
Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses

Rear drum rebuild kit for 10" drums:


Pre-bent complete Brake line system (galvanized ok)
       Dr Diff has standard for $50 or SS for $70 + $10 for clip set
     http://www.doctordiff.com/front-to-rear-brake-line-selector.html

Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses
      I'm guessing the rear hose is needed as well. 3-pcs from Rockauto are $54 + ride
   May also need 3-clips  https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1133395&jsn=452
      I chose to use Russel SS braided on my '73 which required getting a brass block from   an earlier model, total cost $94 
Dr Diff has those as well as the vent bolt to hold to rear housing
     http://www.doctordiff.com/rear-flex-hose-to-hard-line-brass-tee.html
     http://www.doctordiff.com/mopar-rearend-vent-bolt.html
   Best price on Russell 694050  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russell-694050-Street-Legal-Brake-Line-Assembly/323201988965?epid=179685341&hash=item4b4056f965:g:zoMAAOSwroZazQfM

or braded lines with tee can be ordered from Dr Diff for $110.
http://www.doctordiff.com/stainless-steel-rear-brake-hose-w-tee.html
http://www.doctordiff.com/stainless-front-brake-flex-hose-kit.html

Rear drum rebuild kit for 10" drums:
      Dr Diff has a complete kit includes cylinders (needed?
) sans shoes $75 , the same pieces can be had through Rockauto for about $41 http://www.doctordiff.com/10-x-2-1-2-drum-brake-rebuild-kit.html
      Are Shoes or pads not needed? ....  A Front hardware kit?  Front pins?

Power steering pump pressure hose
    The pump # I researched previously would make me think the '74 hose would be the one but my '73 has the flair on one end like the '70 ANYONE?...
    GATES 355850   for '74 Barracuda 360  $18. Rockauto
OE Comparison RatingOE Performance
Length (In)38.25
End 1 Diameter (in).3125
End 1 TypeMale O-Ring
End 2 Diameter (in).375
End 2 TypeMale O-Ring
Includes Switch PortNo
    GATES 352830  for '70 Barracuda 440 W/Saginaw Power Steering Pump $18 Rockauto
OE Comparison RatingOE Performance
Length (In)36
End 1 Diameter (in).3125
End 1 TypeFemale SAE
End 2 Diameter (in).375
End 2 TypeMale Inverted Flare
Includes Switch PortNo

appears the '73 is a hybrid of the two... listing just in case
GATES 356360 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Info
W/Saginaw Power Steering Pump
OE Comparison RatingOE Performance
Length (In)38.3125
End 1 Diameter (in).3125
End 1 TypeMale O-Ring
End 2 Diameter (in).375
End 2 TypeMale Inverted Flare
Includes Switch PortNo

Radiator to thermostat housing hose
   I see these are the generic fit's all versions. (see below)
     For '70 Barracuda 440  Rockauto      Which ONE?
     GATES 25478 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Flexible (Standard) Info  One of our most popular parts
Fitsw/Air Conditioning
Or W/Xtra Cooling
      GATES 25480 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Flexible (Standard) Info  One of our most popular parts
w/o Air Conditioning; w/ Standard Cooling

Checked NAPA for OE fit & they also list two
PART #
NBH 7392 (sames as Gates 20630 ) https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2339&jsn=3
1970 Dodge Challenger
Engines: 7.2 L 440 CID V8
Comments: w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning
Important Information: (I'm thinking 26" radiator) w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning
Centerline Length (in)16
Centerline Length (mm)406 mm
Hose I.D. (in)1.5 in.
Hose Steel CoilNo
I.D. (Inches)1.5"
I.D. 1 (in)1.5
I.D. 1 (mm)38 mm
Includes SpringNo
Length (Inches)16 in.
TypeMolded Coolant Hose
UNSPSC40142000

PART #
NBH 7164 (sames as Gates 20370  ) https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2251&jsn=12
1970 Dodge Challenger
Engines: 7.2 L 440 CID V8
Comments: w/o Air Conditioning;w/ Standard Cooling;@Cut to Length
mportant Information: ( I'm thinking 22" radiator) w/o Air Conditioning;w/ Standard Cooling;@Cut to Length@
Centerline Length (in)17
Centerline Length (mm)432 mm
Hose I.D. (in)1.5 in.
Hose Steel CoilNo
I.D. (Inches)1.5"
I.D. 1 (in)1.5
I.D. 1 (mm)38 mm
Includes SpringNo
Length (Inches)17 in.
TypeMolded Coolant Hose
UNSPSC40142000

Brake booster to intake manifold hose
   Generic item... anyone know the size?

Wow!
It took me a bit to digest all this!

For the brake lines:
I can't remember if we have pre-bent SS fuel lines or not.
I would say we go with the standard lines, unless anyone has any objections.
For the flexible front and rear hoses, I run the standard hoses- his car is a B.B. 440 that is pretty well built, so I'd go with the groups recommendation.
Let's get the clips, but I'm pretty sure he's got a set of clips hanging around.

The radiator hoses:
I'd use the stock pre-formed rubber hoses.
The pre-formed brake booster to manifold hose should be a standard item.
The power booster is a standard (banded) Midland unit common from 72-74.

The brake kit- we only need the rear.
Let's get the pads too.

The front, the only thing we need are the hoses and the pads, but Cathy is going to get the pads.

We also need an emergency brake cable kit.

Here are some more pics!




















Dan



If you want to send parts to Cathy:

Cathy Knox
19600 W Old US Hwy 12,  Chelsea ,  Mi  48118


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[Bullitt-]

  They don't list a booster to manifold hose ... on my small block there's nothing preformed about it, just a length of hose. 

I mailed a check to Cathy today... I'll leave it up to ya'll to order the correct items...
 

[blown motor]

As I recall the rear shoes we had were incorrect. I think Murray struggled with those awhile. I found a starter relay in my garage, where should I send it too?

I did work on it a while and yes the shoes were wrong although the box label was right. That's why it took so long to figure out why things weren't going together right.

[Bullitt-]

Looks like you might need some tranny line fittings
http://www.manciniracing.com/autrcofipa.html

[dodj]

For the flexible brake hoses, I sent Andy a set for the first build party. He PM'd me that he got them so they are probably around somewhere?

Needed:
Front brake caliper (disc) soft hoses