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Jay Bee

Quote from: Brads70 on May 02, 2019, 05:53:30 PM
Yup, anyone with access to a mill and a lathe can easily make one....
...or a 3D printer.

dodj

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 02, 2019, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on May 02, 2019, 05:53:30 PM
Yup, anyone with access to a mill and a lathe can easily make one....
...or a 3D printer.
Not really. It can be done, but A 3d printed gun would very likely blow up in your hand.
"There is nothing your government can give you that it hasn't already taken from you in the first place" -Winston Churchill

ratroaster

Quote from: js27 on May 01, 2019, 08:55:09 AM
You have to think there almost 9 Billion people on this earth. Even if only 1% are defective that is a lot of crazy-evil-people out there. Just last year I had a friend who was sitting at home with her boyfriend and her ex boyfriend shows up at her house with a 12 gauge shotgun ( legally owned)  and kills them both and then kills himself. NO law in the world would have stopped that. Just 2 weeks ago at our local indoor range a guy came in rented a handgun and bought a box of ammo and went into the range area loaded the gun and shot himself in the head. Nothing would have stopped that. Thankfully he just shot himself and no other people were physically injured but watching that will leave emotional scars no doubt. We just had a school shooting yesterday in North Carolina--2 people killed. What is the first thing all the Liberal Democrats do---SCREAM gun control. You have to realize in life you the individual are responsible for your own protection. We all would love to live in a utopia but we don't and my wife and I carry everyday because when it comes right down to it we know we are responsible for our own protection
JS27.
Whohhhhhaa...do yourself a favor and quit watching Fox news dude!


anlauto

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 02, 2019, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on May 02, 2019, 05:53:30 PM
Yup, anyone with access to a mill and a lathe can easily make one....
...or a 3D printer.

They don't have to do either, there's enough illegal guns out there for everybody....

It's nice to identify the bad people as gang members or mentally ill people, but the question is how to keep GUNS out of these people's hands.
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
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Quote from: ratroaster on May 02, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: js27 on May 01, 2019, 08:55:09 AM
You have to think there almost 9 Billion people on this earth. Even if only 1% are defective that is a lot of crazy-evil-people out there. Just last year I had a friend who was sitting at home with her boyfriend and her ex boyfriend shows up at her house with a 12 gauge shotgun ( legally owned)  and kills them both and then kills himself. NO law in the world would have stopped that. Just 2 weeks ago at our local indoor range a guy came in rented a handgun and bought a box of ammo and went into the range area loaded the gun and shot himself in the head. Nothing would have stopped that. Thankfully he just shot himself and no other people were physically injured but watching that will leave emotional scars no doubt. We just had a school shooting yesterday in North Carolina--2 people killed. What is the first thing all the Liberal Democrats do---SCREAM gun control. You have to realize in life you the individual are responsible for your own protection. We all would love to live in a utopia but we don't and my wife and I carry everyday because when it comes right down to it we know we are responsible for our own protection
JS27.
Whohhhhhaa...do yourself a favor and quit watching Fox news dude!

Since I don't want to get to political I'm going to avoid this comment......

Chryco Psycho

#50
Oddly the locations where guns & training are mandatory for Everyone , such as Switzerland & Israel & even counties such as Kennesaw have the lowest crime rates , please explain that !
So we should Trust the Government to protect us instead ? The track record of doing anything better or cheaper is a joke , how often are the wishes of the average person represented by the politicians ? I see the government as the single biggest enemy of the people .
As long as I have the right to own I will , not because I ever plan to use it but because it is my right , call it a trust issue  :thinking:

challengermaniac

While we are on the subject, my son whom is a firefighter and I just got our Concealed Carry Permits and while each state may differ on this, I was wondering should we include our Permit with our drivers license and insurance cards if we are ever pulled over by the police?  The information booklet didn't mention anything, so I thought I would ask here.  My thought is to provide it upfront so the officer doesn't get nervous when they do a check.......
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Timbbuc2

Quote from: challengermaniac on May 02, 2019, 09:56:25 PM
While we are on the subject, my son whom is a firefighter and I just got our Concealed Carry Permits and while each state may differ on this, I was wondering should we include our Permit with our drivers license and insurance cards if we are ever pulled over by the police?  The information booklet didn't mention anything, so I thought I would ask here.  My thought is to provide it upfront so the officer doesn't get nervous when they do a check.......
That question has been asked many times, different states have different laws. But I did as a local police that question. He told me if I have a permit and a gun in the car, when I present my drivers license also present my carry permit. He said that it was good for them to know for their safety.
I could not imagine what a police goes through during a traffic stop AT NIGHT.
Get in, I'll drive

js27

Yes we were taught to present our permits any time if you are pulled over. It happened to me a few years ago. Got pulled over for doing 42 in a 35 ( it must have been that time of the month). I handed my permit over and the officer asked if I was carrying and I said yes. He asked me to please get out of the car which I did and asked where the gun was so I told him. He asked me to put my hands on the roof of the car which I did and he put one hand very lightly on my back which I totally understood what he was doing. He pulled the gun from my holster and said Thank You and I could sit back in the car. He took the gun back to his car and I waited for about 10 minutes and he returned. He came around to the passenger side and open the door and placed the gun on the seat along with all the bullets he unloaded. I said Thank You and he said have a nice day. Oh yea he also gave me a $80.00 speeding ticket. Most of the problems today are from people who give the cops a hard time and do not realize that the cops are in fear for their lives and on Hi Alert which they should be in this situation.
JS27

js27

Quote from: anlauto on May 02, 2019, 05:52:26 PM
There seems to be a lot of "pro" gun people here in this conversation....

What at your thoughts on preventing bad people doing bad things with guns ? Seems everyday in the news someone is getting shot, what steps would you take to prevent that ?

Very good question Alan. The answer may not be what you want to hear but it is a simple one-You Can't Stop them. This question comes up a lot. Let me ask you this--What are your thought on preventing people from committing Rape ? What are your thoughts on stopping people from drinking and driving and Killing entire families ?  What are your thoughts on stopping hundreds of thousands who die every year from drug or are killed by drug users ? What are your thoughts on stopping a human being dying from alcohol every 16 seconds ?  The problem with this question is that there is no viable solution. You can make stricter gun laws but that is already proven they do not work. FACT--Chicago-Detroit-Washington DC-New York have the strictest gun laws in the US and they have the highest gun violence rate. There are many laws against drugs yet they are still the biggest killer in the nation. You kill somebody drinking  and driving-you go to jail-you kill someone with a gun you go to jail but it doesn't stop that from happening again. I am not trying to give you a hard time but the human mind is not like fixing a broken car-you just can't replace a part and go motoring down the highway. The problem is that this "fix the problem" always comes up about guns and is 99% of the time comes from people who do not own guns so they have no use for them.  You never hear that rapes are out of control so lets fix the problem--or drunk drivers kill more people than guns so lets fix the problem. If you were magic and could wave your magic wand ( with a Hemi in it of course) and make every gun on the planet just disappear would that stop evil from using guns--Of Course problem solved--or is it--now you have 3 druged crazed evil people breaking into you house in the middle of the night with knives or baseball bats and rape and kill your daughter and wife while you watch and maybe kill you or maybe not and you can do nothing to stop them because you didn't have any means ( guns) to do so. Evil is out there--always was and always will be and the only way to stop evil is to KILL IT before it kills you. I wish I had a better answer for you --I really do but I am a realist and that is why my wife and I carry guns.
JS27

js27

Quote from: ratroaster on May 02, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: js27 on May 01, 2019, 08:55:09 AM
You have to think there almost 9 Billion people on this earth. Even if only 1% are defective that is a lot of crazy-evil-people out there. Just last year I had a friend who was sitting at home with her boyfriend and her ex boyfriend shows up at her house with a 12 gauge shotgun ( legally owned)  and kills them both and then kills himself. NO law in the world would have stopped that. Just 2 weeks ago at our local indoor range a guy came in rented a handgun and bought a box of ammo and went into the range area loaded the gun and shot himself in the head. Nothing would have stopped that. Thankfully he just shot himself and no other people were physically injured but watching that will leave emotional scars no doubt. We just had a school shooting yesterday in North Carolina--2 people killed. What is the first thing all the Liberal Democrats do---SCREAM gun control. You have to realize in life you the individual are responsible for your own protection. We all would love to live in a utopia but we don't and my wife and I carry everyday because when it comes right down to it we know we are responsible for our own protection
JS27.
Whohhhhhaa...do yourself a favor and quit watching Fox news dude!

If you make a comment like that you must be a Liberal Democrat--and that is fine but maybe you should back it up with some facts instead of just making a worthless comment-DUDE !


anlauto

Okay...just take away the bullets then    :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
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Quote from: anlauto on May 03, 2019, 09:25:49 AM
Okay...just take away the bullets then    :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Come into my house late at night & I'll be happy to give you some bullets.... :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

BIGSHCLUNK

True.... But chances are my Sheperd will have a 2 lb chunk out your azz first

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Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on May 03, 2019, 09:46:29 AM
True.... But chances are my Sheperd will have a 2 lb chunk out your azz first

I agree.... But it pays to be prepared...