Turkey and Covid?

[torredcuda]

Not sure how old this is, but I still see a 14 deaths by nonvax for every 1 death per vax.

I have also heard Republicans/Trump supporters are dying at 5x Dems but have yet to see any real proof of that. As said if a high % of people are vaxxed why are at almost one million cases when the highest number before the vaccines came out was only about 1/4 of that number?

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+cases+in+us&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS841US893&oq=covid+cases+in+us&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i131i433i512j0i433i512j0i131i433i512l3j0i512j0i131i433i512j0i512j0i131i433i512.3682j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[cuda hunter]

Not sure how old this is, but I still see a 14 deaths by nonvax for every 1 death per vax.

I see that also. And with such a small percentage of the population that isn't vaxxed and 14 to 1 deaths, the non vaxxed folks should all be dead.  Or they will all be dead soon at that rate.

[worthywads]

Not sure how old this is, but I still see a 14 deaths by nonvax for every 1 death per vax.

I see that also. And with such a small percentage of the population that isn't vaxxed and 14 to 1 deaths, the non vaxxed folks should all be dead.  Or they will all be dead soon at that rate.

Check your math again, there are way more unvaxxed then dead, just means there aren't that many vaxxed that are dying.

Currently 62% fully vax, 12% partial, 26% not vaxxed, that's 85 million people

[PLY474]

Fully vaxxed Grand Rapids couple dies 1 minute apart from COVID-19  https://www.fox17online.com/news/coronavirus/grand-rapids-couple-dies-1-minute-apart-from-covid-19   If the vaccine was birth control, we'd be up to our ears in babies.  Again, I can't understand why early treatments are being suppressed.  Makes no sense to me. 

I found the Joe Rogan interview of Robert Malone (inventor of mRNA vaccine technology) to be informative.  It's 3 hours long, so you have to be in the mood to watch it.  https://rumble.com/vrtdku-joe-rogan-jre-1757-robert-malone-covid.html

[worthywads]

Fully vaxxed Grand Rapids couple dies 1 minute apart from COVID-19  https://www.fox17online.com/news/coronavirus/grand-rapids-couple-dies-1-minute-apart-from-covid-19   If the vaccine was birth control, we'd be up to our ears in babies.  Again, I can't understand why early treatments are being suppressed.  Makes no sense to me. 

I found the Joe Rogan interview of Robert Malone (inventor of mRNA vaccine technology) to be informative.  It's 3 hours long, so you have to be in the mood to watch it.  https://rumble.com/vrtdku-joe-rogan-jre-1757-robert-malone-covid.html

From the Grand Rapids article.

"Days later, the couple was hospitalized and on ventilators – both had preexisting conditions that made things even more dire."

Obviously even vaccination can't help a lot of people with preexisting conditions, and that is likely the reason there is still 1 vaxxed that dies for every 14 unvaxxed.

[torredcuda]

Summary
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 yearolds.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 14 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 yearolds.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 13 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ yearolds.
• 15 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

[7212Mopar]

Deltacron arrived. Not much data on it yet.

[torredcuda]

Scroll down to "hospitalizations by vaccination status" -
Unvaccinated cases  552
Partially vaccinated cases  123
Fully vaccinated cases   1612

In ICU
Unvaccinated cases  138
Partially vaccinated cases  14
Fully vaccinated cases  158


https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations#vaccine-status-data

[torredcuda]

myocarditis risks -

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

[worthywads]

myocarditis risks -

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

Apparently some sites are reporting this as established information, against the guidelines of this site.

medRxiv (pronounced "med-archive") is a free online archive and distribution server for complete but unpublished manuscripts (preprints) in the medical, clinical, and related health sciences. Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.

This what the CDC is saying about Myocarditis and Pericarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html

[dodj]

Scroll down to "hospitalizations by vaccination status" -
Unvaccinated cases  552
Partially vaccinated cases  123
Fully vaccinated cases   1612

In ICU
Unvaccinated cases  138
Partially vaccinated cases  14
Fully vaccinated cases  158


https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations#vaccine-status-data

And according to gov't numbers recently, vaccinated people comprise 3/4 of the reported cases. I'll wait to see how the numbers work out over the winter, but at the moment, it appears in Ontario, vaccination is doing nothing.
You no longer hear the phrase 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' here.
You hear it from the Quebec Premier, he seems to have lost his marbles. He's turning into a tyranical leader. Hope they vote him out and get rid of him soon.

[worthywads]

Scroll down to "hospitalizations by vaccination status" -
Unvaccinated cases  552
Partially vaccinated cases  123
Fully vaccinated cases   1612

In ICU
Unvaccinated cases  138
Partially vaccinated cases  14
Fully vaccinated cases  158


https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations#vaccine-status-data

And according to gov't numbers recently, vaccinated people comprise 3/4 of the reported cases. I'll wait to see how the numbers work out over the winter, but at the moment, it appears in Ontario, vaccination is doing nothing.
You no longer hear the phrase 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' here.
You hear it from the Quebec Premier, he seems to have lost his marbles. He's turning into a tyranical leader. Hope they vote him out and get rid of him soon.

Well you can't say the vaccination is doing nothing.

Currently 17% of Ontarians? are unvaccinated,  but 45% of ICU are unvaccinated.

Disappointing that there are still that many vaccinated in ICU?

At least we aren't still talking about it being a big hoax.  Let's not go back to pictures of empty parking lots at hospitals.

[torredcuda]

2 shots "limited protection" 3 shots "reasonable protection", a long way from the original 95% efficacy they first touted  and you`ll need the Omicron shot when it comes out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMbKyDq9_w

[dodj]

I've never been in the hoax camp, but I watch the numbers here in Ontario and since about the 3rd week of December, there are more vaccinated than unvaccinated in the new infection numbers. ICU numbers are down from previous waves. Vaccination at work there? Could be. Is it just because omicron is milder? Could be. We'll see how this plays out by the end of March.
I'm getting my third shot on the 19th. Gotta admit though, I have less confidence in it than I did for the first two shots.
If any of you guys south of the 49th care to see what an out of control covid gov't looks like though, search Quebec covid restrictions. Premier Legault would be roughly similar to a State governor.

[torredcuda]

myocarditis risks -

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

Apparently some sites are reporting this as established information, against the guidelines of this site.

medRxiv (pronounced "med-archive") is a free online archive and distribution server for complete but unpublished manuscripts (preprints) in the medical, clinical, and related health sciences. Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.

This what the CDC is saying about Myocarditis and Pericarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html

I did see that it was a preprint but there are other studies out there about the risk of myocarditis in certain groups, it may not be conclusive yet but it is definitely a concern.