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"Engine" Build Sheet codes (1970 E-Bodies)

Started by Cuda Cody, March 09, 2017, 07:54:43 AM

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6bblgt

looks like it was built a week late - around 5/20
any more info available to the right on lines #1 & #5?  rest of sheet?

anlauto

Quote from: 6bblgt on March 10, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
looks like it was built a week late - around 5/20
any more info available to the right on lines #1 & #5?  rest of sheet?

How do you determine it's a week late ?
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6bblgt

Quote from: anlauto on March 10, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
How do you determine it's a week late ?

I've been working on some "Actual Production Date" calendars, I have March & April '70 pretty much mapped out and May is coming together.  I've been working on '71 Hamtramck, but the decline in E-body numbers is adding to the difficulty.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/actual-production-date-vs-scheduled-production-date/810/]

6bblgt

in a '70 MOPAR - E63 represents 383 cu.in. engine with a 4-barrel carburetor

a blue 383 4bbl Carter equipped engine was rated 330hp (same cam as 383 2bbl)
an orange 383 4bbl Holley equipped engine was rated 335hp & "HP" stamped (same cam as 440HP 4bbl)

there are NO/ZERO/NADA 383HP c-bodies in 1970

anlauto

Quote from: 6bblgt on March 10, 2017, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: anlauto on March 10, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
How do you determine it's a week late ?

I've been working on some "Actual Production Date" calendars, I have March & April '70 pretty much mapped out and May is coming together.  I've been working on '71 Hamtramck, but the decline in E-body numbers is adding to the difficulty.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/actual-production-date-vs-scheduled-production-date/810/]

Can you simplify it for me I'm still very confused  :clueless: Where on a build sheet do you find the "actual production date" ?
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6bblgt

Quote from: anlauto on March 10, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
Can you simplify it for me I'm still very confused  :clueless: Where on a build sheet do you find the "actual production date" ?

it's not there in black & white - lots of time collecting/organizing data & patterns emerge - known dates & sequence numbers & time stamps = EARLY VS. LATE

still looking for specific plant walkout/strike data & vintage UAW contract info - this all started a few years ago with the "LAST HEMI" pissing match


Cuda Cody

 :banana:  Good catch @6bblgt    :clapping:   Jedi numbers guy! 

Quote from: 6bblgt on March 10, 2017, 12:36:20 PM
in a '70 MOPAR - E63 represents 383 cu.in. engine with a 4-barrel carburetor

a blue 383 4bbl Carter equipped engine was rated 330hp (same cam as 383 2bbl)
an orange 383 4bbl Holley equipped engine was rated 335hp & "HP" stamped (same cam as 440HP 4bbl)

there are NO/ZERO/NADA 383HP c-bodies in 1970

Culvers


Cuda Cody

Nice job @Culvers    :bravo: 

I bet 112 is a 440+6 manual trans w/ heater.   :thinking:

Cuda Cody

@cudaized  was able to find the missing 340 code!!!   :clapping: 

Only missing the 112 (if there was one) and the 198 slant 6 Auto Trans w/ Heater.

019 = 225 1 Barrel w/ Manual Tran & Heater
021 = 225 1 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater
047 = 318 2 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & Heater
048 = 318 2 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & AC
059 = 318 2 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater
060 = 318 2 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC
072 = 383 2 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater
073 = 383 2 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC
084 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & AC (Orange Painted Engine & Holley Carb 335 HP)
085 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater (Blue Painted Engine & Carter Carb 330 HP)
086 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC (Blue Painted Engine & Carter Carb 330 HP)
087 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & Heater (Orange Painted Engine & Holley Carb 335 HP)
088 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater (Orange Painted Engine & Holley Carb 335 HP)
089 = 383 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC (Orange Painted Engine & Holley Carb 335 HP)
110 = 426 Hemi w/ Manual Trans & Heater
111 = 426 Hemi w/ Auto Trans & Heater
113 = 440 6 Pack w/ Auto Trans & Heater
114 = 440 4 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & Heater
115 = 440 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater
116 = 440 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC
122 = 440 6 Pack w/ Manual Trans & Heater
123 = 440 6 Pack w/ Auto Trans & Heater
133 = 340 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & Heater
134 = 340 4 Barrel w/ Auto Trans & AC
138 = 340 4 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & Heater
139 = 340 4 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & AC
146 = 340 6 Pack w/ Auto Trans & Heater
148 = 340 6 Pack w/ Manual Trans & Heater
150 = 440 6 Pack w/ Manual Trans & Heater
193 = 198 1 Barrel w/ Manual Trans & Heater


anlauto

So you're saying the cars are built in order of the sequence number in the top lefthand corner of the sheet ?

Wouldn't that just be the order the sheet was printed ?

I'm totally lost on this......going to bow out.....  :tired:
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Culvers

Just a question: was AC available on 198 or 225 engines? If yes, there should be some more engine codes...

Cuda Cody

Dan and I were just talking about that.  I think Dan found the info that said AC was only available on V8 engines and (if I recall) Automatics.   :huh:

Quote from: Culvers on March 15, 2017, 08:38:50 AM
Just a question: was AC available on 198 or 225 engines? If yes, there should be some more engine codes...

Cuda Cody

And thank you everyone that helped with all the codes and answering the questions.  Was on the phone with @6bblgt  last night for about 2 hours as we made the final push to get all the codes figured out.  Dropped off the master file today with the programmer and we'll be Beta testing the Build Sheet decoder soon!!!!!

We feel we are 99% complete and perfectly accurate with all the information.  We feel we have uncovered some new information too.  But we'll continue to chase perfection and find the last 1% of odd and weird code / combinations.  This is just one more step for E-Bodies.org in gathering and sharing information.  The more we all know and share, the better off the hobby is.