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Interior panel dyed but no sheen?

Started by MKA, January 05, 2022, 08:51:37 PM

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MKA

My rear interior panels were chipping old paint so I went about dying them but I have either missed a step or done something wrong as they have no sheen. 

I prepped the panels first by cleaning and using a 3M light scuff pad to remove the old paint.  I cleaned after this with the duplicolor prep wax and grease remover.  I used herbs adhesion promoter and black interior paint 3 coats.   My end goal was consistency but I was never going to be able to remove the scratches or nicks which there weren't that many anyway.

I was initially happy as the panels came out with a nice consistent black.   But.   As I put them next to the panels in the car that did not require a refinish, it's clear I am missing the sheen.  What have I done wrong or missed?

TIA


FE5CUDA

No matter what you're using for dye, if you want all the plastic to match perfectly, you'll have to do all of it with the same dye.

anlauto

I've never used Herb's paint for their black, I've always used SEM Landau Black, which has a nice sheen to it....but I agree, the only way to get a perfect match is to do all the panels with the same process. :alan2cents:
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Cuda_mark

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Quote from: FE5CUDA on January 06, 2022, 03:10:24 AM
No matter what you're using for dye, if you want all the plastic to match perfectly, you'll have to do all of it with the same dye.

I agree - if you're going to do one, you need to do all.

MKA

Thanks all.  agreed on the overall matching.  Was just surprised at the lack of sheen, but that all makes sense.   

Thanks for the recommendation Alan.  I will give that a test. 

usraptor

I did my rear in the SEM black Landau and they match the repo front door panel perfectly.  Just saying.

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anlauto

That's the stuff...if you're refreshing black, it takes only two light coats....changing colors, maybe more...I've had great results with rattle cans  :dunno:
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Spikedog08

Quote from: anlauto on January 06, 2022, 06:27:25 PM
That's the stuff...if you're refreshing black, it takes only two light coats....changing colors, maybe more...I've had great results with rattle cans  :dunno:

Rattle cans are easier as don't have a sprayer.  2 cans enough for the entire interior? 
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anlauto

"entire interior " ?  I think 4 cans would do the six plastic panels and maybe the seat backs as well....if you're getting into do the dash pad, A pillars, sunvisors etc...you might want to pick up six..
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torredcuda

You could give the panels a light buff or polish to get the sheen up - 3M, Meguirs, Mothers all have products for that.
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MKA

Quote from: torredcuda on January 07, 2022, 04:20:08 AM
You could give the panels a light buff or polish to get the sheen up - 3M, Meguirs, Mothers all have products for that.

Agreed. Had that thought and did a small test area where the seat meets the panel.  Got it close, but figured I have the panels out what's another coat or 2 and I'll probably be doing the front seat rear panels next anyway.   

cuda hunter

I agree with using the sem product.  Much better sheen.

Be careful putting more layers on.  Eventually all those layers will fill in the texture and make them look different. 

Personally, I would clean them again, adhesion primer them again and then spray the landau.

However, I've seen way better results with a spray gun and not the rattle cans.   
I've only used the rattle cans unfortunately. 
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Burdar

QuoteRattle cans are easier as don't have a sprayer.  2 cans enough for the entire interior?

It depends if you are trying to change the color or just freshening up an existing black panel.  If the panels are already black, 2 cans should be more than enough to spray 4 interior panels, kick panels, seat backs IMO.  You are just misting light coats on the pieces...you aren't spraying them heavily.  A 3rd can might be nice to keep around for touch-ups and if you are spraying a console, dash exc...