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Moog Upper Control Arm Problem Solver Bushings

Started by ksierens, April 03, 2019, 12:16:59 PM

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ksierens

Has anyone actually used these? Do they make that much difference in handling?
1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed Dana 3.54

HP_Cuda

1970 Cuda Yellow 440 4 speed (Sold)
1970 Cuda clone 440 4 speed FJ5
1975 Dodge Power Wagon W200

ksierens

Yes, the ones that allow you to get additional positive camber.
1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed Dana 3.54


HP_Cuda


Yep I used them and got additional caster out of them.

Word to the wise, the instructions that come with them are confusing and are backwards. Check online or I believe someone has gone through it here.

They were traditionally used for cars that got into accidents - believe it or not.
1970 Cuda Yellow 440 4 speed (Sold)
1970 Cuda clone 440 4 speed FJ5
1975 Dodge Power Wagon W200

BIGSHCLUNK

Unless you have an alignment issue ... you don't need them . And yes I do run them... but didn't need them either

HP2

They don't improve handling, per say, but they contribute to improved angles of operation.  They can accomplish a couple of things, but not at the same time. Installed per the instructions, they provide extra camber. Installed in an alternative way, they can provide more caster.

Extra camber can help keep the tire perpendicular to the road if your car generates a fair amount of body roll.  Extra caster can improve return to center of the steering, add resistance to the steering feel, and improve higher speed stability. 

Crash520

After installing them in my Cuda for maximum caster I wouldn't build another Mopar without them, particularly given the tires we have today, my Cuda is more stable at 190 mph than my 2013 Benz on backroads, my tire wear is better than I have ever had as well
Greg
Brisbane
Australia


GoodysGotaCuda

Quote from: Crash520 on April 03, 2019, 04:05:21 PM
After installing them in my Cuda for maximum caster I wouldn't build another Mopar without them, particularly given the tires we have today, my Cuda is more stable at 190 mph than my 2013 Benz on backroads, my tire wear is better than I have ever had as well

190?  :rubeyes:
1972 Barracuda - 5.7L Hemi/T56 Magnum
2020 RAM 1500 - 5.7L

My Wheel and Tire Specs

RUNCHARGER

I put them in all my cars as well. It's too hard to get decent caster without them.
Sheldon


ksierens

Katfish, are these the instructions that came with the bushings, or the ones online that other said are correct?
1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed Dana 3.54


303 Mopar

Quote from: ksierens on April 04, 2019, 04:50:12 AM
Katfish, are these the instructions that came with the bushings, or the ones online that other said are correct?

That's the proper way to install them. It's opposite the instructions in the box.

I have installed these on several on my Mopars and love em!

HP_Cuda

1970 Cuda Yellow 440 4 speed (Sold)
1970 Cuda clone 440 4 speed FJ5
1975 Dodge Power Wagon W200

jt4406

 :help: I have installed these in my car TWICE. First set lasted about a year, then began squeaking on the passenger side! I replaced the squeaking bushings on the passenger side, solved that problem, for about 3 months, then the driver side started squeaking. Replaced the driver side bushings, solved that squeak again, for about two months. Now the driver side is squeaking AGAIN! New Moog bushings each time, what gives???? :notsure:
"Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160........"

bc3j

Running them for 7 years now with no problem. Was able to get 4* of caster. Really like them.