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The red on red 1970 Cuda project

Started by Wayne, May 19, 2019, 05:23:47 PM

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Wayne

Quote from: YellowThumper on June 17, 2019, 08:55:20 AM
Awsome find!
Look forward to watching your progress.

Thanks! 


Very interesting info.  My scheduled build date was Feb 16  FYI. 

Are the crumple zones at the arrow locations I marked up? 
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anlauto

Yes those are them...Not something to worry about, you're not doing an OE Gold concourse restoration and it's something 98% of the people wouldn't notice. :alan2cents:
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6bblgt

I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" 'cuda hoods as early as April 1970
I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" Challenger hoods as early as June 1970

I have not seen a non-crush-zone "bulge" hood on a '71 e-body (non-crush-zone SHAKER hoods are common during 1971 'cuda production)


anlauto

Quote from: 6bblgt on June 17, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" 'cuda hoods as early as April 1970
I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" Challenger hoods as early as June 1970

I have not seen a non-crush-zone "bulge" hood on a '71 e-body (non-crush-zone SHAKER hoods are common during 1971 'cuda production)

I stand corrected thanks to Dan....I just went through my pictures and it was a 71 Shaker hood car that I had restored with a 70 hood.
However I think Feb 70 is still pretty early. :alan2cents: I would just not worry about it, sorry I brought it up.
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Wayne

Quote from: anlauto on June 17, 2019, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 17, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" 'cuda hoods as early as April 1970
I've seen the crush-zone "bulge" Challenger hoods as early as June 1970

I have not seen a non-crush-zone "bulge" hood on a '71 e-body (non-crush-zone SHAKER hoods are common during 1971 'cuda production)

I stand corrected thanks to Dan....I just went through my pictures and it was a 71 Shaker hood car that I had restored with a 70 hood.
However I think Feb 70 is still pretty early. :alan2cents: I would just not worry about it, sorry I brought it up.

No apology needed!  I am glad you brought it up and created a good conversation....mostly with people with much more knowledge than me on the matter  :)

You are right, either way I am not going to worry about it.  I am not doing an all original restoration.  I am curious though if it is the original hood.  But, only curious. 
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6bblgt

the lack of paint on the inner fenders is curious also, does it look like they've been worked on or replaced?

do you have a picture of the underside of the hood - forward left corner  :takealook:

Wayne

Quote from: 6bblgt on June 17, 2019, 11:21:24 AM
the lack of paint on the inner fenders is curious also, does it look like they've been worked on or replaced?

do you have a picture of the underside of the hood - forward left corner  :takealook:

I don't have a good picture of it but I can take one later today and upload it.  I have a minute video I uploaded to my instagram account that might show what your looking for. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Byx3vgylkz1/?hl=en


Me and my friend were looking over it really close the other day....the welds on the inner fenders appear to be stock.  Our only thought is for whatever reason the original owner stripped the original paint off but I have no idea why.  The car was going to be raced but never got there.  The car had some crude inner wheel tubs put in, weld in sub frame connectors and the rear frame rails were notched.  The guy I bought the car from put it all back to stock.  So its not a car that has never been touched, but is perfect for me.   
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6bblgt

the video doesn't catch what I'm looking for .....  AFAIK there are 3 different "bulge" 'cuda hoods

5/16" bolts & NO "crush-zones" (early-mid 1970 model year)
5/16" bolts & "crush-zones" (late 1970 & very early 1971 model year)
3/8" bolts & "crush-zones" & 3 reliefs for the 1971 "PLYMOUTH" emblem

here's a '70 hood & I marked the approximate location of the 3 reliefs used for the "PLYMOUTH" emblem that started in 1971

6bblgt

do you have a broadcast sheet pic that you can share publicly or privately?  email to dhead68@hotmail.com

Wayne

I took a couple pictures of the front corner. I can email you the build sheet.

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Wayne

I finally finished prepping the hood.  Sanded it down with 250 grit by hand.  The plan is to shoot some primer later this week.

I also got all my parts from Bill @ BMCuda.com  He was really helpfull.  New wiper motor, blower motor, blower wheel and blower plate and 3 speed arm.  I also ordered a gasket set from Detroit Muscle Technologies and that should be here tomorrow.  I plan to start putting the heater box back together.

Next will be to get the fenders off so I can focus on the engine bay.


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Wayne

#41
Here is the Eastwood Etch I used on a couple areas of the hood and then mostly on the hardware for the heater box.  It worked good.  Let the product sit for 30 minutes then wipe it off.  Then a couple rounds of wax and grease remover and it was ready to prime and paint.

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Wayne

Phase 1 of the paint project was to fix the poor bodywork on the door and fender where the paint lifted and was rattle caned. I just couldn't stand looking at that area.   Phase 2 will be the engine bay.  i finally got the bodywork straightened out and block sanded.  Then on Sunday my friend Trent came over to lay down some color for me.  I am very happy with how it came out. I think it will blend in perfectly with the theme of the car.
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JS29


RUNCHARGER

That's a years progress for some and then they never bolt it together again.
Sheldon