An Electric Challenger! Oh no!

[Msbaugh440]

Can't find any hydrogen companies to invest in? That must be a joke.  I work for one of the big, bad oil companies and we make hydrogen... a hell of a lot of it too. More than any other business... We basically just burn whatever we don't use hydrotreating gasoline and diesel/stove oil blends to lower sulfur levels. Want to invest in hydrogen? Guess what companies are already set up to make it... every oil company with a refinery in the US

[jimynick]

You can talk about hydrogen or electricity all day, but until there's an infrastructure to support either one, they'll be curiosities suitable for big cities, primarily. Until you can pull into a 7-11 and fuel your hydrogen or electric "car"? they won't gain the needed consumer traction to make wholesale changes. Teslas' are impressive machines, but just try to get and or afford one, AND where's the nearest Tesla dealer for when, as all cars do, you have a problem? 

[YellowThumper]

You can talk about hydrogen or electricity all day, but until there's an infrastructure to support either one, they'll be curiosities suitable for big cities, primarily. Until you can pull into a 7-11 and fuel your hydrogen or electric "car"? they won't gain the needed consumer traction to make wholesale changes. Teslas' are impressive machines, but just try to get and or afford one, AND where's the nearest Tesla dealer for when, as all cars do, you have a problem? 

Good continuation of my point. Why invest an infrastructure that will end up having an extremely short shelf life.
Invest in what can be sustained for generations.

[Chryco Psycho]

Most hydrogen systems would just fill with water & have on board separation systems to release the hydrogen no infrastructure needed

[7212Mopar]

My senior project was a single cylinder 5hp engine converted to run on hydrogen. We had the engine running on both gas and hydrogen setup mounted on a water dyno to compare. Horsepower was down by 40% running on hydrogen because of poor volumetric efficiency and hydrogen is less dense in energy. It was fun though and I remember the professor was hiding behind a concrete wall when we first fired up the engine.

Problem with current hydrogen techology is it takes more energy to make hydrogen then you can get from it. Time and persistence in R&D will get us there someday. It is the most basic and clean energy in the universe that we know of.

[YellowThumper]

Yes there is a much lower output % in comparison to gas. However for commuter driving it can be acceptable.  I see the test mules driving in SoCal all the time. Boring but absolutely clean commuter can open doors for the 1000 hp fun cars to hit the road.

[7212Mopar]

I love internal combustion engines even when burning hydrogen. It is not entirely clean though because it still has nitrogen oxide formation in the process. Future use of hydrogen and application will not be IC but fuel cell to power electric motor, except may be rocket propulsion.

[jimynick]

"except may be rocket propulsion" Step right up ladies and gentlemen and here's your opportunity to buy stock in George Jetson Motors; rocket motors,  that is! I sure wouldn't want to be the guy tailgating in those days! 

[soundcontrol]

Sweden, Norway and Finland have been developing Hydrogen fueling for years.

https://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/index.php/hydrogen-sweden/

There is no hydrogen cars or public gas stations for hydrogen here (Sweden) though, last article I read was that they are planning 8 new stations for the next 3 years, (Dec -18), not public stations. Article said that California in the US, and Germany in Europe is leading the development in hydrogen.

Edit: I was wrong, just read now that there is 4 public hydrogen stations in use right now, more is planned.