Firm Feel Stage 2 or Stage 3

[Bossgold]

Read thru some posts but still wondering what members recommend for Firm Feel and a 1970 AAR Cuda.  Firm feel says Stage 2 is the most popular but stage 3 has the most posts here. I like tightness in the steering and I don't plan to race around a track. I just know when I drove a T/A the steering was crazy loose at 55 MPH. I would like a good balance of parking yet I would prefer higher speed tightness - Any thoughts are appreciated Thanks

[b5cuda]

Haven't tried stage III so can't compare, but I am really happy with stage II in my '69 cuda.  Been running it for ten years already, a great improvement over OEM. 

[Bossgold]

thanks B5cuda .....how does it drive at high speed.......cause firm feel says that stage 3 is firm and at first I will need to get used to it......don't know what that means. So hope to hear about more examples

[b5cuda]

Stage II is steady at high speed and easy to handle when parallel parking, does not have that over-assisted feel the stock units tend to give.  I do 4-5,000 miles/year with no complaints.

[Brads70]

I've had stage 3 for almost 10 years now.... I like it

[dodj]

I have a box from steer and gear that is supposed to be the same as a firm feel stage 2. I like it and is far better than stock, but I think I should have bought a stage three.

[Chryco Psycho]

I would suggest stage 3 , overall it has a tight modern feel

[gzig5]

I've had stage 3 for almost 10 years now.... I like it

Did you see/feel a difference when you went to the big meats on the front from what you had before? I know you have some geometry changes with non-stock parts in the front end, does that affect the effort?

[soundcontrol]

I picked stage 2, FF recommended it, and I kinda like that I can steer my Challenger with one finger. But I do not like the stock steering at high speeds though. So right in between that and a modern tighter feel would be perfect. Have not tried it yet.

[Bossgold]

great points, 4 degree pos camber with bigger tires (245's) effect the effort? alot or not by much?  Finally since my car is a four speed, turning will often be with one hand does anyone feel that's a big difference or something to consider?   BTW thanks for all the input

[Brads70]

I've had stage 3 for almost 10 years now.... I like it

Did you see/feel a difference when you went to the big meats on the front from what you had before? I know you have some geometry changes with non-stock parts in the front end, does that affect the effort?

No can't say I noticed a difference in steering effort when I went to the bigger tires up front. It still power steering and stage 3 is nothing like manual steering.

[dodj]

great points, 4 degree pos camber with bigger tires (245's) effect the effort? alot or not by much?  Finally since my car is a four speed, turning will often be with one hand does anyone feel that's a big difference or something to consider?   BTW thanks for all the input

My car is a 440 4sp, my front tires are 255's. I think my stage two is a little light. It's good, way better than stock, I just think a stage three would be better.

[Ric]

I picked stage 2, FF recommended it, and I kinda like that I can steer my Challenger with one finger. But I do not like the stock steering at high speeds though. So right in between that and a modern tighter feel would be perfect. Have not tried it yet.

I also choose this as F.F  recommended it, should be receiving it soon...

[gzig5]

I've had stage 3 for almost 10 years now.... I like it

Did you see/feel a difference when you went to the big meats on the front from what you had before? I know you have some geometry changes with non-stock parts in the front end, does that affect the effort?

No can't say I noticed a difference in steering effort when I went to the bigger tires up front. It still power steering and stage 3 is nothing like manual steering.

Thanks.  Reason I ask is my BMW has a Sport button which changes the power steering assist rate, among other things.  When I went from 245 to 275 front tires on that car, there was a noticeable change in steering effort at low speed and in sport mode it felt a little like manual steering effort.  But, the feel at speed was perfect.

[dave73]

I have a steer and gear stage 3, I love the feel