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« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2023, 06:43:26 AM »
However we may see this, I never expected to see such a thing. It is impressive, to me, the things that are most important to different peoples. I hope the person that got this car gets all of the enjoyment out of it that they hope for.
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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2023, 10:12:49 AM »
Yes: Defeo got this one right. Somebody may or may not have paid a lot of money for a $150k car needing a resto.
My Dad always said to give someone enough rope and they'll hang themselves. I think that applies to the Collector car auction situation. It has to get more ridiculous until it kills itself off.
I'd like to be one of those people that 'could' spend that kind of cash on an old car. I still wouldn't do it...if I was spending large on a hobby car it would be a Ferrari, McLaren, or similar.
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« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2023, 03:45:50 PM »
i think with out the story this car is minimum 500 000 To 600 000, all original and rare options very desirable car , the last one was the red one,not as original like the Black ghost and sold for 502 000 usd  and not so interesting in my book .( i saw both cars in MCACN ).

 :iagree: I figure the car is a  $500k or so as it is a cool car with a couple very cool options but needs to be restored.

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« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2023, 04:16:09 PM »
I enjoy this video, because it's pretty much what I've been saying all along...


 :iagree: Should have been called The Black Hoax. I guess as long as the new owner is happy with it.

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« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2023, 06:24:55 PM »
The story is entirely possible. The guy only race on the street once in awhile and was missing months at a time. He was a cop after all. Anyone who participated or saw the races remembered it as part of their youth adventures and people talk about these kind of stuffs to reminiscent their past. The whole thing might had been carefully packaged, orchestrated to maximize the price. Nothing wrong with that, standard business practice. I like the story, the car but not so much of the son cashing out the car given by his dad. I would have keep the car to remember dad and let the grandson sells it.
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« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2023, 04:35:21 AM »
It`s very possible the basic story is true, the car has 45,000 miles on it so it was driven and maybe raced on the streets at night but the part where it was the fastest car around and never lost is the BS part. We have all heard the fish stories - you know the one that got away, it was huge, the biggest fish ever! The fish story is partly true - the guy caught a fish and it got away thereby no proof but the story part is that it was a 3" minnow not a huge Barracuda (see what I did there?).  :haha:

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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2023, 06:50:23 AM »
People knew he was a cop and lost the races on purpose for fear of any kind of reprisal or retaliation.
 :crazytalk:  just adding a new conspiracy theory to this.  :smile:

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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2023, 07:20:49 AM »
Seeing this sale makes me wonder what the Silver Bullet would be worth if it went on the market, or some other very famous Detroit area street racers from back in the day including the Lisk 71 Challenger?
The Black Ghost may well have done some late night street racing, but would have been taking on more middle of the pack competitors not the legendary heavy hitters.
I think its a real cool car and its always notable when a rare car is a survivor and stays in the same family for half a century.  But not a million dollars cool.  I hope the new owner enjoys it.
I still think back to a car Ron Adair was selling back when I was in college probably 1982.  A triple black hemi RT/SE Challenger.  He'd added options to it like rubber bumpers and a shaker.  I heard later he'd been asking $8500.  I wonder where it ended up.

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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2023, 07:41:11 AM »
I think the black Ghost should be restored back to perfection...then it might be worth $975K :dunno:
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2023, 07:55:24 AM »
Though I'd tend to agree with those that say there are too many restored to perfection cars out there, with every part properly date coded and paint splotch duplicated, I did find the Black Ghost to have a little more patina than I could live with,  Paint a bit faded.  Dings and scuffs.  Where to go with it I am not sure.  Restore it and a pitchfork mob would descend on you.  Don't restore it, and you have a mildly ratty looking car in your collection.  Maybe paintless dent repair and some new or restored trim like the hood trim to make it look a bit better?
What would a documented highly optioned hemi RT/SE be worth anyway?  I don't think it would be anywhere near 1M.  Maybe 400-500K is my estimate.

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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2023, 10:34:20 AM »
Make a real street racer out of it - quickie re-paint, add cam, a Rat Roaster intake, headers into side exhaust, fiberglass hood, fenders and bumpers, crank up the torsion bars, skinnys on the front, sticky Mickeys on the  back, gut the car of back seat and anything else that would lighten it, 383 emblems,  and have fun while the purists cried!    :wrenching:  :burnout:   :rofl:

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« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2023, 10:45:21 AM »
Uncle Tonys Garage did a follow up video today.  Mentions the car has a hole in the floorboards.  Maybe it does need restoration?


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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2023, 06:44:49 AM »
45,000 miles in 5 years isn't low miles, that car would have been seen a lot

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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2023, 07:39:59 AM »
If any car I owned was that beat up after 45,000 miles I'd hang my head in shame. Again this is a $150k car needing a resto with an average story that is worth nothing.
My wife's $2000 Neon was kept in better shape than this car.
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« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2023, 09:00:41 AM »
My 2014 Dart with 116,000 miles that isnít garaged, and is driven year round including on salty roads shows much nicer than the black ghost now that I think of it. No dings. Shiny paint. No surface rust to speak of.
Only a few chips in the windshield as far as patina.
And my car doesnít leave a trail of blue smoke when I drive it!
I do seem to recall hearing in some of the hype videos stories of kids bikes dinging the black ghost a few times while it sat hibernating in the garage. And todays base coat clear coat paint is more durable than the enamel of the 1970 era.
Still the black ghost seems to have had a less than pampered life.

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