UPDATE....FRAUD Alert for BS23JOB296260 Vitamin C AAR

[76orangewagon]

Back in mid 1990 I bought an 1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda that I drug out of the Miami/ Ft Lauderdale, Florida area. Once I got the car home realized it beyond what I was willing or able to restore back then and then I found my current 1971 Shaker Cuda and focused my attention toward that car instead. I ended up taking some parts off the AAR and cut up the shell and sold all the important parts including the matching numbers block and 727 transmission along with all the body stamping's and dash to a guy who lived in the Toledo, Ohio area.
I recently found several pictures of the car which reminded me of this car and felt I should put what info and Pictures I had out there because I know that someone probably created a fake car and passed it off as an original. Sorry....I do not have the Vin number to help determine what car it is but remember the guy specifically pointed out what he wanted cut out and how much extra metal around the numbers he wanted. Hope the Pictures help..thats all I have after all these years. The intake and carbs were gone when I bought it in Florida.

[Chryco Psycho]

What a shame you cut it up 

[76orangewagon]

What a shame you cut it up 

If AMD was around back then it would have been a easier fix, the roof had several rust holes in in that you could put your fist thru...the salt water environment really did a number on it. I bought the car for around $2700 used lots of parts on my 71, traded the AAR front fenders and grille for a set of gilled 71 fender and then re-sold the left over cut up car parts for $2500.

[76orangewagon]

(UPDATE)  Almost 3 years ago I originally posted this topic with little information other than the color...well the other day i ran across the bill of sale from where we bought and a piece of cardboard that I wrote the fender tag codes on.  So, if this is your Cuda it would seem that the guy I sold all the parts to or some else decided to make a replacement AAR out of it. Hopefully this car isn't out there and the parts were just sold off.

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[headejm]

I ended up taking some parts off the AAR and cut up the shell and sold all the important parts including the matching numbers block and 727 transmission along with all the body stamping's and dash to a guy who lived in the Toledo, Ohio area.

Sorry....I do not have the Vin number to help determine what car it is but remember the guy specifically pointed out what he wanted cut out and how much extra metal around the numbers he wanted.

Serious question...what did you think was going to happen with cut out number stampings?

[Fastmark]

Uh, no kidding. You are the one that cut all the numbers off and sold them. Now you are warning of a fake car? Seems like you are the one that started the mess.

[anlauto]

  Yea, I'll leave the door to the vault open, but if someone steals something, don't blame me....

[CudaA39]

Uh, no kidding. You are the one that cut all the numbers off and sold them. Now you are warning of a fake car? Seems like you are the one that started the mess.

Lol for real.  I'm glad OP had a change of heart but man not like admitting to being an accessory to vehicular fraud on the internet.

No doubt someone on here will end up tracking down that car if it exists.

[worthywads]

I can appreciate the honesty.

But yeah I think selling a VIN is illegal.

If this car shows up somewhere and word gets out that it isn't legit and it goes to court, this thread is prime evidence and OP is criminal #1.

[headejm]

Another serious question...Is it illegal to swap VINs on a car? Is it Federal law or State law? What's the penalty? Pretty sure it's been done numerous times. 

[torredcuda]

Another serious question...Is it illegal to swap VINs on a car? Is it Federal law or State law? What's the penalty? Pretty sure it's been done numerous times. 

Been discussed many times, there is a federal law  for vin tampering but state laws vary as to what you can/can`t do legally.

[YYZ]

Another serious question...Is it illegal to swap VINs on a car? Is it Federal law or State law? What's the penalty? Pretty sure it's been done numerous times. 

It's illegal if it is done with the intent to defraud — eg putting a clean VIN on a stolen car, or changing a BS23N to a BS23R

If it's done for 'repair' purposes, then that becomes a gray area, and different States have different laws regarding how one is to deal with 'repair' parts, and where they came from.

Think about a pickup truck where it's pretty easy to have a cab, frame and box from 3 different vehicles.

Unless someone complains about being ripped off, it doesn't seem like much else happens given the number of high profile cars with replacement bodies that go through the auctions each year.

[torredcuda]

Another serious question...Is it illegal to swap VINs on a car? Is it Federal law or State law? What's the penalty? Pretty sure it's been done numerous times. 

It's illegal if it is done with the intent to defraud — eg putting a clean VIN on a stolen car, or changing a BS23N to a BS23R

If it's done for 'repair' purposes, then that becomes a gray area, and different States have different laws regarding how one is to deal with 'repair' parts, and where they came from.

Think about a pickup truck where it's pretty easy to have a cab, frame and box from 3 different vehicles.

Unless someone complains about being ripped off, it doesn't seem like much else happens given the number of high profile cars with replacement bodies that go through the auctions each year.

[Xghobo]

I can't help but feel bad for someone who bought that AAR and now a lifetime later the car lost most of its value now that vin is out there as a re body.Man someone is going to loose a ton of $.

[71vert340]

 If I owned this car, I would part it out. I would not sell the cowl and the upper radiator support with the VIN stampings. I'd weld over them and grind flush. The dash VIN tag and door decal would be destroyed and the title burned. Everything would be sold to help other cars be completed.
Terry W.