WARNING RE-BODIED FAKE V CODE 1970 CUDA ON THE MARKET VIN NUMBER BS23V0B159582

[plum crazy rt]

YES! that is the same car. The seller is still not disclosing that the vin number has been changed even after I had the car pulled form Mecum!

This guy is a piece of work..

I am going to post a waring on CL.

Thanks For the heads up @GrandpaKevin !

[anlauto]

Is this the same guy that sold it to you for $57K ? Just wondering now why he would ask $85K ? OR has it changed hands since you returned it ?

[plum crazy rt]

@anlauto  I don't know, Mecum would not disclose that info. Regardless this is the same guy who listed on Mecum. Also Mecum told me that when he was confronted he did not deny knowing the car has been restamped..

I did post a warning on CL

here is the link

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/phoenix-warning-do-not-buy-re-70-code-6/7061926695.html

[anlauto]

I guess it does sound like it could be the same guy you dealt with. 

Don't really understand why he just doesn't advertise it as a rebody, adjust the price and cut his losses and move along...it's been brought to his attention enough times now.

With a much lower price he would likely sell the car to someone who doesn't care about the numbers.

[Spikedog08]

I guess it does sound like it could be the same guy you dealt with. 

Don't really understand why he just doesn't advertise it as a rebody, adjust the price and cut his losses and move along...it's been brought to his attention enough times now.

With a much lower price he would likely sell the car to someone who doesn't care about the numbers.

Yes exactly  . . That would be the thing to do . .

[JS29]

Again, Good job plum crazy rt.   

[318Stroker]

Don't really understand why he just doesn't advertise it as a rebody, adjust the price and cut his losses and move along...it's been brought to his attention enough times now.

Maybe because it's a federal offense...

[anlauto]

Don't really understand why he just doesn't advertise it as a rebody, adjust the price and cut his losses and move along...it's been brought to his attention enough times now.

Maybe because it's a federal offense...

You're likely 100% correct, but I doubt it's a case that would ever be prosecuted...All the accused felon would have to do is grind off the cowl and rad support numbers so they were blank....and there goes any proof unfortunately 

The car is just a car....someone will buy it...

[aussiemark]

This vehicle should be impounded have the VIN and fender tags removed and destroyed and have a tag with a reissued VIN that looks nothing like an original tag fitted to the dash so anyone can tell it is not a genuine car and never will be. This way anyone who doesn't care about numbers can get a cool looking car at a realistic price without any confusion, personally I would prefer an original 318 base model with it's original tags then this flight of fantasy. I have never trusted cops retired or still working they are the biggest lying pieces of shit out there I have personally witnessed them standing up in court after putting their hand on a bible and swearing an oath then lying like you wouldn't believe, trust NOBODY especially cops.

[HP_Cuda]

Karma has a way of possibly having the car stolen from him and the car being parted out.

Otherwise this guy will never change his nefarious ways.....

[6bblgt]

 ***** if stolen he will collect the insurance
***** or he will use it for collateral on a loan, then default on it & it will become a bank's problem

because it is a rare valuable collectable vintage automobile        NOT any more!!     

[Hemiicoronet]

I just had a close call with this fake E bodied car. The seller was in Grand Junction, Colorado, asking $70,000 fo the car. I hired an inspection company to check it out and they came back to me that it is a fake Cuda and had been re-bodied. Saved me a nightmare.

Car is currently on EBAY.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda/143620285543

[ec_co]

I just had a close call with this fake E bodied car. The seller was in Grand Junction, Colorado, asking $70,000 fo the car. I hired an inspection company to check it out and they came back to me that it is a fake Cuda and had been re-bodied. Saved me a nightmare.

Car is currently on EBAY.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda/143620285543

and this is why it is important for us to continue posting these types of vehicles, so that potential buyers can be aware with a basic VIN search. If a buyer is OK with it, great. but for those wanting a no-qualms vehicle, this will be a great warning.

[jamesroney]

Don't really understand why he just doesn't advertise it as a rebody, adjust the price and cut his losses and move along...it's been brought to his attention enough times now.

Maybe because it's a federal offense...

Can somebody please explain why they think that this is a federal offense?

Are you citing:
18 U.S. Code § 511.Altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers.
a)A person who—
(1)knowingly removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters an identification number for a motor vehicle or motor vehicle part;

Are you claiming that he was "altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers?"

If so, then you CANNOT ignore, 18 USC 511, section b.
(b)
(1)Subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration by a person specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection (unless such person knows that the vehicle or part involved is stolen).

It is important to remember that 18 USC 511 governs THEFT.  Taking parts from legally owned cars to make a fake is not theft.  Selling this car without disclosure is FRAUD.

The problem with Fraud is the victim needs to be aware that he has been ripped off.  All too often, the victim finds out too late.

So a big "thank you" for posting the history on the car, and all the more important to keep a registry when this crap is discovered.  But don't expect law enforcement to do anything.  We are a community, and we will need to rely on each other.  (As a Sunbeam Tiger owner, I get to see a lot of it.)

[nsmall]

For fun I emailed the seller and shamed his false advertisement.