questions about 440

[cuda hunter]

rods

only pictures I could get

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[6bblgt]

those are "Heavy-Duty" 440 rods - forging #2951908 (AKA "six-pack" rods)
used on both U-code 440HP & V-code 440+6 engines for 1970 - the T-code 440 4bbl engines used "LY" rods

are the pistons "flat top" (440HP) or do they have 4 valve reliefs (440+6)?

a rivet/pin or hole would indicate where the Chrysler "NEW" engine tag would've been attached - can't find a 440 pic, but I think it's around the first freeze plug on passenger side  here's a 340's tag

[cuda hunter]

https://forum.e-bodies.org/reference-material/18/warranty-block-tags/156/

so that's a warranty tag then and not a over the counter/service replacement tag. ?

[6bblgt]

it's just the "name" that has stuck over the years - it's all the same (like "HEMI" 4-speeds & "six-pack" rods)

it's an ID tag that identified the "NEW" short or long block that Chrysler manufactured for use/sale as a warranty, service replacement, over-the-counter, or other

50 years ago it was a very different "car world" there were not multiple crate engines marketed to the enthusiasts to upgrade their car - the upgrade was a NEW car next year.  they were mainly disposable transportation and the typical family had one or two cars and part of life was keeping them running, not a barn full of 50 year old cars

[cuda hunter]

flat top pistons

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And some paint markings under the oil. 

There doesn't appear to be any paint on this motor.  Was that common? 

[Chryco Psycho]

If only they could talk !
odd to have 6 pack HD rods but low comp pistons

[cuda hunter]

If only they could talk !
odd to have 6 pack HD rods but low comp pistons

I was thinking the same thing. 

[6bblgt]

If only they could talk !
odd to have 6 pack HD rods but low comp pistons

that's the contents of every 1970 440HP 375hp orange painted CARTER AVS 9.7:1 compression ratio'd U-code engine

[6bblgt]

And some paint markings under the oil. 

There doesn't appear to be any paint on this motor.  Was that common?

the letters A B C D E are cylinder bore dimensions, to be assembled with corresponding pistons on the assembly line for optimum piston-to-wall clearance

yes it is typical for a "service replacement engine" to have no paint on it - the person finishing the assembly should've painted it

[cuda hunter]

Would that final assembly person have been a dealership employee?  Or would that block have been purchased over the counter and taken to joe schmo's garage and was supposed to be painted there? 

thanks for all the info.  I really appreciate it. 

Since I can't get the thing to spin I'm gonna start taking it apart  Maybe today. 

[6bblgt]

Would that final assembly person have been a dealership employee?  Or would that block have been purchased over the counter and taken to joe schmo's garage and was supposed to be painted there?

yes, whoever bolted the orange oil pan to it should've bought a couple cans of "engine enamel" & painted it - so it would look shiny & new 

  take note of the dates on the main & rod bearings when you take it apart 

[cuda hunter]

A friend of mine that does a few engines a year says I should stamp each rod and rod cap so that I know which order they came in.  And which order to put them back together. 
  Is stamping a small number on each part acceptable?   Or should I just not worry about that?