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Katfish

Quote from: Brads70 on January 26, 2025, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: Katfish on January 26, 2025, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on January 26, 2025, 09:04:59 AMI'm very glad I was able to buy my car when I did 18 years ago. No way I could afford one now let alone restore it.

So true, if I was just starting now, I'd be looking at a 3-4yr old Mustang.
Well.... don't know if I'd stoop that low?  :))

I'd definitely stoop, great performance, tons of aftermarket support and better styling than the new Challengers, and only $35k for a 2020.

Mustang GT models feature a 5.0-liter V-8 producing 460 hp and 420 lb-ft in both manual and automatic versions

Brads70

LOL, I respect what they are. They have always been a bit of a hemorrhoid car to me, you know...... every a$$hole has one . But saying that I rather a mustang than most tuner type cars.

JH27N0B

Quote from: Brads70 on January 26, 2025, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: Katfish on January 26, 2025, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on January 26, 2025, 09:04:59 AMI'm very glad I was able to buy my car when I did 18 years ago. No way I could afford one now let alone restore it.

So true, if I was just starting now, I'd be looking at a 3-4yr old Mustang.
Well.... don't know if I'd stoop that low?  :))
There's some cool vintage Mopars that aren't priced to the moon like E bodies are.
No need to stoop to driving a Moostang!
I bought a '78 Magnum 3 years ago and have had a blast with it.  I would say it gets as much attention and admiration when I take it to shows and cruise nights as my Challenger convertible gets despite being only worth 1/3 to 1/4 as much the Challengers value.
'79 Chrysler 300s in good condition turn up for sale regularly sometimes under $10,000.
Interesting C bodies often can be bought on a budget.
No need to stray from Mother Mopar!


ec_co

 There's some cool vintage Mopars that aren't priced to the moon like E bodies are.
No need to stoop to driving a Moostang!
I bought a '78 Magnum 3 years ago and have had a blast with it.  I would say it gets as much attention and admiration when I take it to shows and cruise nights as my Challenger convertible gets despite being only worth 1/3 to 1/4 as much the Challengers value.
'79 Chrysler 300s in good condition turn up for sale regularly sometimes under $10,000.
Interesting C bodies often can be bought on a budget.
No need to stray from Mother Mopar!
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I really really miss my '79 Magnum. Factory two-tone black and silver, 360 4 barrel that I changed out the lean burn to an MSD system, woke it up a bit. It's one of the few cars that I actually miss and I've looked for one for years, the only one I've ever seen with the same factory paint job was one of those classic car dealers that had an outrageous price. I missed out on a white one a few years ago that was in pristine condition with low miles for only a few grand.
The only thing flat earthers fear, is sphere itself.

'70 Barracuda B5/B5 225 /6 3spd ... about as bare bones as they came .... now in 4spd flavor


Katfish

I get brand loyalty, to a degree.
But we gotta be honest with ourselves.
I'm buying cars to drive, and if it's gonna be a 40yr old car, it definitely won't to be land yacht B body.  Why not just get a K-car?
Now a 82 Mustang, that's something you wouldn't be embarrassed with.

RUNCHARGER

Yes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.
Sheldon


ec_co

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2025, 09:48:39 AMYes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.

I'm with you on the new Mustangs, I would buy one of those over the Camaro any day. I drove a couple of newer Camaros and they just didn't do anything for me, too plasticy, bad rear view and one I test drove about 10 years ago the side mirror design created a wind whistle that drove me nuts. I did however buy a newer Challenger a few years back, I absolutely loved that boat. I put a lot of time and money into it, by the time I was done it was putting out about 460 crank horsepower from the 5.7. unfortunately after the asshole ran over me I had to sell it.

The only thing flat earthers fear, is sphere itself.

'70 Barracuda B5/B5 225 /6 3spd ... about as bare bones as they came .... now in 4spd flavor

Brads70

Quote from: ec_co on January 27, 2025, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2025, 09:48:39 AMYes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.
I like the T/A style hood. Where did you get that from?
I'm with you on the new Mustangs, I would buy one of those over the Camaro any day. I drove a couple of newer Camaros and they just didn't do anything for me, too plasticy, bad rear view and one I test drove about 10 years ago the side mirror design created a wind whistle that drove me nuts. I did however buy a newer Challenger a few years back, I absolutely loved that boat. I put a lot of time and money into it, by the time I was done it was putting out about 460 crank horsepower from the 5.7. unfortunately after the asshole ran over me I had to sell it.



Brads70

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2025, 09:48:39 AMYes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.
Agreed the 80's were not Mopars finest hours..... they made nothing I'd buy car wise. I also am not a fan of the Camaro, 1969 was cool but  thats about it for me. For me in the 80's I liked the G-Body cars, I've owned a few. 
Ya the newer Challengers are overweight.... but so am I  :haha:
I'd love to own one, preferably the last year so I could have the first and last. Unless the current administrations actions resurrect Dodge?

Brads70

Quote from: Katfish on January 27, 2025, 09:35:12 AMI get brand loyalty, to a degree.
But we gotta be honest with ourselves.
I'm buying cars to drive, and if it's gonna be a 40yr old car, it definitely won't to be land yacht B body.  Why not just get a K-car?
Now a 82 Mustang, that's something you wouldn't be embarrassed with.

You don't like the B Body cars? Really? 70 RoadRunner, 68-70 Chargers, 69 Coronet are my top all-time favorites. I even love some of the C-body's from the same years.
Now K-car yep , not a fan. 82 Mustang.....Now I love the 69-70 Mustangs and their racing heritage In the 80's for me I liked many of the 78-87 GM G-body cars. I owned a few , great cars once you replaced the rear ends.  :D  I always enjoyed building cars that would beat stock mustangs. I didn't have much disposable income in those days though. My cars were also my daily drivers, no money or storage for anything else. 


ec_co

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Quote from: Brads70 on January 27, 2025, 11:51:47 AM
Quote from: ec_co on January 27, 2025, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2025, 09:48:39 AMYes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.
I like the T/A style hood. Where did you get that from?
I'm with you on the new Mustangs, I would buy one of those over the Camaro any day. I drove a couple of newer Camaros and they just didn't do anything for me, too plasticy, bad rear view and one I test drove about 10 years ago the side mirror design created a wind whistle that drove me nuts. I did however buy a newer Challenger a few years back, I absolutely loved that boat. I put a lot of time and money into it, by the time I was done it was putting out about 460 crank horsepower from the 5.7. unfortunately after the asshole ran over me I had to sell it.



It was part of the factory Exterior Appearance Package which was available from 2010 to 2014. I know it's a dumb thing, but I did run the numbers on it and it was a one of two but only because of spare tire delete. It's the hood they *should* have used on the new TA trim, but for some dumb reason they went with the AAR style (which I like fine, but doesn't fit the TA theme
The only thing flat earthers fear, is sphere itself.

'70 Barracuda B5/B5 225 /6 3spd ... about as bare bones as they came .... now in 4spd flavor

Katfish

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Quote from: Brads70 on January 27, 2025, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: Katfish on January 27, 2025, 09:35:12 AMI get brand loyalty, to a degree.
But we gotta be honest with ourselves.
I'm buying cars to drive, and if it's gonna be a 40yr old car, it definitely won't to be land yacht B body.  Why not just get a K-car?
Now a 82 Mustang, that's something you wouldn't be embarrassed with.

You don't like the B Body cars? Really? 70 RoadRunner, 68-70 Chargers, 69 Coronet are my top all-time favorites. I even love some of the C-body's from the same years.
Now K-car yep , not a fan. 82 Mustang.....Now I love the 69-70 Mustangs and their racing heritage In the 80's for me I liked many of the 78-87 GM G-body cars. I owned a few , great cars once you replaced the rear ends.  :D  I always enjoyed building cars that would beat stock mustangs. I didn't have much disposable income in those days though. My cars were also my daily drivers, no money or storage for anything else. 

We got off track, all the cars you mentioned (>50yr old) are out of range price wise.  That's why others mentioned buying 80s B-bodies (40yr old).  For someone today looking to get into a decent muscle car, that they can drive, there's not much out there, other than the Mustangs.

HP2

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2025, 09:48:39 AMYes: I tried to support Chrysler in the 80's but I just couldn't drive a turbo FWD car. I did support them to the fullest though with new pickup trucks and parts purchases. Nowadays I like the fairly current Mustangs the best, the Camaros are fugly and the latest Challengers are huge, overweight pigs. I haven't went as far as buying a Mustang but I would consider one.

Yup. Thats when I defected to GM. I had an '84 Z28 5.0 HO 5 speed with a Rancho suspension system. It was a fun car to drive on the twisty mountain roads around here. In the '90s I had no heartburn tearing up Novas and Ventures on the local oval track either, and parts were plentiful and cheap in area salvage yards.

In sticking with the Mopar theme, '70s A bodies aren't stupid expensive and aren't impossibly difficult to find. If I didn't have my Challenger, I'd be playing with more of those. Although I did just purchase my first A body last fall and am scoping out a couple others I'd like to snag, but don't have places to store.