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Started by FF376, November 18, 2020, 02:30:52 PM

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FF376

I'm finally getting ready to see about replacing my old 2nd gen ram 1500. Still keeping it around as my son is now driving / restoring it but first of the year I'm going to start the hunt again. Still want a Mopar but I don't have a lot of experiences with the latest Ram's. For those of you that own one what do you like? Not like? What should I avoid ? How is reliability? Fuel mileage? This will be a daily driver / family vehicle not a "work" rig. Looking at 4 doors , 4x4, hemi, tow package etc... Heaviest thing it may tow is an e body on an open trailer so probably a 1500. I like the 2500 but don't think I want the costs to buy and maintain the Cummins. Thanks for any suggestions.

RUNCHARGER

Mine's the "old style" 18 but there's just nothing bad to say about it. The stock Goodyear tires were garbage but they're gone now, I think the new ones may have Bridgestones. Mine has 3.90 gears so it's got lots of pep, don't even consider the 6 speed auto on the cheaper models. Great interior, good power, good tech if you're that type of guy. I've gotten 22 MPG on the highway with it but usually averages 18MPG or so.
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JH27N0B

I've been back motivated to get a 2500, for towing my E Body.  I wouldn't take a diesel today if you gave it to me due to several issues, but the 6.4 hemi gas that is standard on 2500s sounds good to me.  The last gen Rams looked better, but it's a real sellers market now and with what I'd have to pay for a used one, I should just pay a little more for brand new.  The new ones have 8 speed transmissions though, which might increase the drivability enough to offset the worse looks!


ek3

the ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi and 8 speed will do what you want easy. I get 18-20 mpg  in-town- hwy   I bought 3 new  in the last 6 years .. the last 2 had exhaust manifold leak issues [ minor]   a 2013   had a bad cam/lifter took  a new engine at 120 k miles and it was only on  mobil 1 ext-per-oil ..... the 8 speed is a huge plus ! I have tweaked many  g/t mustangs with them  :yes: ......

Matt13

Look at the new Dodge "T-RX" (T-Rex play on words) built to combat the Raptor. Only 702hp.

Moosefire66

You're going to like the increase in mileage for sure. Those 2nd Gen rams are (in my opinion) the best looking rams, but unfortunately my old 2nd gen 2500 with a 360 got 12mpg fully loaded going uphill or empty on the freeway with a tailwind. New models are much better.

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one bad fish

I have always owned a 3500 cummins. Started with a 1989, then a 1996, 2003, 2007. Drove the 2007 for 460 thousand Kilometers. In 2018 I bought a 2011 with 60k on it for 42000 Canadian dollars. Sold the 2007 for 23 grand and paid 60 for it new. That's not bad. I have never had one of those diesels apart. Only ever changed oil every 20K - NEVER did I ever flush or change diff or tranny oils (I know...). I always have had good luck with them and sold them for a lot of money when I was done with them. The 2007 was used as my field truck (dually) and I admit it went through a lot of front ends however it got driven hard. I deleted and chipped all of them at least the 2003 and 2007 and my current 2011. Makes them better on fuel and no grief for EGR - DPF. Everyone says, I don't want the extra maintenance costs for one of these trucks and I say that's crap. Mind you, I need a diesel for my holiday trailer plus I saw hardwood lumber in Quebec on my farm and haul it to Alberta on my 30 foot triaxle trailer - take my time hauls 28,000 lbs no problem and gets around 11 mpg towing that triaxle (imperial gallons). Great truck - Laramie fully loaded. and when I sell it - will get top dollar for it. Plus I kept all the emissions stuff I took off it in case someone wants to buy it and put it back to stock.


dodj

I have a 2018  3500. You can get the heavy duty trucks with a gas engine if you like.
The only bad things I have to say is the NAV is poor and not worth the money,  and the original equipment tires (Firestone transforce) were crap.
Everything else has been great.
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JH27N0B

I don't want to hijack this thread into a discussion on diesels, and it sounds like the OP wasn't inclined to get one anyway, but think it's important to point out that modern diesel trucks have a lot of issues mostly due to emissions.  If you drive your truck a lot and pull heavy loads diesel might still make sense.  Or if you get real lucky and find an older diesel truck that doesn't have a million miles, they are like money in the bank.
But new ones have a lot of issues beyond just the higher cost to purchase.  Def fluid has a fairly short shelf life and if you aren't putting a lot of miles on your truck it may go bad on you before you use up a tank of def.  regen is an irritation.  If you are doing a lot of short trips or idling a lot you will regret diesel.  There are several things that can go bad in diesel systems that are expensive to fix, like lift pumps.
There is a huge problem in later model diesels including Rams with a cp4 pump that goes bad and destroys the entire fuel system, resulting in a $10,000+ repair. 
http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/what-is-cp4-failure
For general transportation use, towing a car or camper trailer occasionally, gas is the only way to go now.  A 6.4 or 5.7L Ram will do just fine, you'll get a little less gas mileage with gasoline compared to diesel but for the limited amount most of us tow, the extra fuel cost is minimal compared to the extra cost of buying a diesel and maintaining it.
For towing a car the debate should be 3/4 ton v 1/2 ton, not gas v diesel.  I think 3/4 is best, but some say you can install air bags on a 1500 and it will tow ok that way, at least for towing open trailers. I want to tow an enclosed so a 6.4 2500 is my goal.

anlauto

I love my 2017 Laramie 1500.....tow E Bodies on an open trailer all the time with no problems...love the adjustable air ride suspension. :bigthumb:
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gzig5

I got a 2020 new style four door Laramie in August with the E-torque Hemi.  I like it a lot better than the 3.5 EcoBoost F150 it replaced.  Rides better, better mileage, better looking, and the seats are more comfortable.  I still don't like how these companies tie the options together, but they all do it.  I can't use a 2500 and they don't ride as well.  I've read concerns about the air suspension so I stayed away from it specifically.


FF376

I'm familiar with modern emissions and diesels. I manage a fleet of equipment for a local government agency and we deal with it all the time. Really for me when I'm honest with what the truck is going to do the Cummins is overkill. So would a 2500 really. 99% of the time it will be some  around town or highway driving with just me in it.
I'm not going to put a ton of miles on it a year. I'm the original owner of the 97 1500 I spoke of and it has 170k miles on it in the almost 24 years I've had it. I use the truck for the occasional trip for home projects, dump runs, tow a small single axle for swap meet stuff and maybe once a year tow a car trailer to Carlisle. Otherwise it's a car with a big trunk..... I'd keep driving it but my son has taken It over and is sort of restoring It while he drives it and the wife said I should just get a new truck. Gotta keep her happy you know.

BFM_Cuda

I bought a 2020 1500 crew/shortbox a few months and have almost no complaints. Rides great, decent mileage 18-20 combined, lots of power, rear seat area is huge, rear seats fold up and the floor is flat so it will hold a lot inside. The rear seats also recline (sort of) which is neat.

Only complaint so far is the turning radius. I cant swing into the garage very easily. Have to back up if I don't get it just right. Maybe I am just too use to my old single cab short box...  :haha:

700 AKN


I'm still driving my 2004 Dodge Ram Rumble Bee.  I do not drive it much because I use other vehicles for work.  I have no plans to get rid of it yet because it only has 18,000 miles on the poor thing.  It's not even broken in yet.  At this rate I''ll be 129 years old when it hits 100,000 miles.  Great truck!



dodj

Quote from: BFM_Cuda on November 19, 2020, 04:08:28 PM

Only complaint so far is the turning radius. I cant swing into the garage very easily. Have to back up if I don't get it just right. Maybe I am just too use to my old single cab short box...  :haha:
You should try parking my 2018 3500...
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