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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: anlauto on June 08, 2020, 09:28:15 AM

Title: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 08, 2020, 09:28:15 AM
Does anybody make a quality motor mount comparable to Poly-loc mounts ? Or any idea where to get Poly-loc mounts ?
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 09:33:09 AM
Schumacher mounts

https://www.engine-swaps.com/Pages/ProductsType/PolyLoc.html
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 08, 2020, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 09:33:09 AM
Schumacher mounts

https://www.engine-swaps.com/Pages/ProductsType/PolyLoc.html

I've been trying for a couple of months to contact them, just sent another email...see how that goes. :huh:
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 09:43:00 AM
Well they are in Seattle so who knows their current business status; it's a real general cluster state-wide in Washington right now.  Good luck  :twothumbsup:



Quote from: anlauto on June 08, 2020, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 09:33:09 AM
Schumacher mounts

https://www.engine-swaps.com/Pages/ProductsType/PolyLoc.html

I've been trying for a couple of months to contact them, just sent another email...see how that goes. :huh:
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Bullitt- on June 08, 2020, 10:00:44 AM

  https://www.manciniracing.com/enginemounts.html

Mancini probably has what your looking for ... I've heard good things about their "Mag Mount"
https://www.manciniracing.com/maheduenmo.html

   
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 10:10:31 AM
Mancini sells Schumacker made mounts too if you cannot reach them directly.



Quote from: Bullitt- on June 08, 2020, 10:00:44 AM

  https://www.manciniracing.com/enginemounts.html

Mancini probably has what your looking for ... I've heard good things about their "Mag Mount"
https://www.manciniracing.com/maheduenmo.html


Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 08, 2020, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Bullitt- on June 08, 2020, 10:00:44 AM

  https://www.manciniracing.com/enginemounts.html

Mancini probably has what your looking for ... I've heard good things about their "Mag Mount"
https://www.manciniracing.com/maheduenmo.html



Thanks ! I went for their Mag Mounts instead....nobody seems to have the Poly-locs in stock..
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: kawahonda on June 08, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
I use magmounts...no complaints!
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Burdar on June 08, 2020, 10:43:10 AM
There is a big post on Moparts about Schumacher mounts.  It looks like they are out of business.  No one has been able to get in touch with them for awhile.  The owner had some health issues and might have just closed up shop. 

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2774765/schumacher-creative-engine-swaps-com-what-happened.html#Post2774765
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 08, 2020, 10:52:58 AM
Ouch that is sad to hear for him and the community  :crying:


Quote from: Burdar on June 08, 2020, 10:43:10 AM
There is a big post on Moparts about Schumacher mounts.  It looks like they are out of business.  No one has been able to get in touch with them for awhile.  The owner had some health issues and might have just closed up shop. 

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2774765/schumacher-creative-engine-swaps-com-what-happened.html#Post2774765
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: 73Challengr on June 08, 2020, 12:39:32 PM
Bought a set of mity mounts last week. In stock, quick shipping, owner answered the phone and questions, nice guy. Will get them installed next week.

http://mitymounts.com/chrysler.htm
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: dodj on June 09, 2020, 03:26:36 AM
Quote from: kawahonda on June 08, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
I use magmounts...no complaints!
As do I. Have them holding down the 440 for around 10 years now.
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 09, 2020, 09:18:09 AM
Do those magmounts have a through fastener holding the halves together?


Quote from: kawahonda on June 08, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
I use magmounts...no complaints!
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: gzig5 on June 09, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 09, 2020, 09:18:09 AM
Do those magmounts have a through fastener holding the halves together?


Quote from: kawahonda on June 08, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
I use magmounts...no complaints!
Yes. There is a bolt holding them together.  I made my own using $8 mounts and a $1.00 bolt.  Helps to have the right tooling and a drill press or mill but can be done otherwise if you are clever.  Big flathead bolt with a nylock nut on the other side so the rubber can do it's job. I also swapped the nut on the tab so the driver side bolt will go in from the front and not require the header to come loose. 
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 09, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
Yup  :bigthumb:


Quote from: gzig5 on June 09, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 09, 2020, 09:18:09 AM
Do those magmounts have a through fastener holding the halves together?



Yes. There is a bolt holding them together.  I made my own using $8 mounts and a $1.00 bolt.  Helps to have the right tooling and a drill press or mill but can be done otherwise if you are clever.  Big flathead bolt with a nylock nut on the other side so the rubber can do it's job. I also swapped the nut on the tab so the driver side bolt will go in from the front and not require the header to come loose.
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: MOPAR MITCH on June 09, 2020, 11:43:55 AM
I was able to buy the Poly-Locks through Mancini this past November 2019... but I've also wanted to buy the SB E-body Torque strap made by Shumacher... Mancini told me they are on back-order... and that they (Mancini will probably start making the torque straps themselves.

I did find a problem with the Poly-Locks... the locating dowel pins need to be filed down in size to fit into the k-frame hole... the height of the dowel pin hits the inner tube of the k-frame where the long bolts passes through... it was a hassel to figure this out.. repeated trial fit... .

Ultimately, for a torque strap, I've decided to re-use my old reliable chain (newly black taped)... as it connects from the front cylinder head bolt hole... down to the sway bar bracket (drilled a bolt hole and washer-shimmed the stretch of the chain with just a very slight amount of slack).

I originally chose the Poly-Lock motor mounts because I've installed a Milodon road race oil pan.. and it fits extremely tight into the k-frame.. has to cut clearance at the steering box area, but the real tight fit was at the passenger side area of the k-frame... the motor mount of the frame needed massaging to clear the oil pan... and I knew the rubber motor mounts would flex way too much under my AX/HSAX/HPDE track events.. and likely hit the k-frame on that passenger side.   I need all the stiffness possible (next choice would've been solid motor mounts (but not legal in my racing class).
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 09, 2020, 12:47:15 PM
Quote from: MOPAR MITCH on June 09, 2020, 11:43:55 AM
I did find a problem with the Poly-Locks... the locating dowel pins need to be filed down in size to fit into the k-frame hole... the height of the dowel pin hits the inner tube of the k-frame where the long bolts passes through... it was a hassel to figure this out.. repeated trial fit...

This is really good info at the right time. I have a set of Poly-Locks here for another customers car. I'm actually wait for the motor to arrive, but in the mean time I can certainly test fit the mounts to the K frame now ...Thanks :worship: :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: 7212Mopar on June 09, 2020, 12:48:53 PM
I am running Mity mounts after trying the Magnum mounts that would not fit correct. The bolt holes were drilled different from the stock locations. The Mity mount brackets was also formed with a bigger radius so it did not sit flush with the K frame bracket. I had to insert a piece of metal shim about 1/16 or so thick to fill the gap. I am also running the road race pans and had to trim and cut the K frame motor mount bracket. Same as Mopar Mitch, most of the cutting is at the passenger side and I welded a piece of metal to block it back up. So far everything works and no issues. Part of the fun working on these cars.
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 09, 2020, 01:15:21 PM
That mount design is pretty darn simple I don't understand why they have problems putting bolt holes in the proper location while making them.


Quote from: 7212Mopar on June 09, 2020, 12:48:53 PM
I am running Mity mounts after trying the Magnum mounts that would not fit correct. The bolt holes were drilled different from the stock locations. The Mity mount brackets was also formed with a bigger radius so it did not sit flush with the K frame bracket. I had to insert a piece of metal shim about 1/16 or so thick to fill the gap. I am also running the road race pans and had to trim and cut the K frame motor mount bracket. Same as Mopar Mitch, most of the cutting is at the passenger side and I welded a piece of metal to block it back up. So far everything works and no issues. Part of the fun working on these cars.
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 08:35:53 AM
ATTENTION: Alan Gallant has stupid restorers moment ...... :headbang:

Because Poly-locs are around $200 pair and Mancini's Magmounts are only $59, I figured I had to order (2) ...$118 for a pair right ? NOT !

Totally missed where it said "Magmount SET "  :huh:

Oh well....looks like I have an extra set of Magmounts....KiJiJi here we come  :haha: :haha: :console:

Not bad though....ordered them Monday, got them today in Canada :worship:
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:09:32 AM
How do they look?  Like Anchor mounts embossed w/Korea on the rubber, or not?  Older Anchors were good but quality declined over time.



Quote from: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 08:35:53 AM
ATTENTION: Alan Gallant has stupid restorers moment ...... :headbang:

Because Poly-locs are around $200 pair and Mancini's Magmounts are only $59, I figured I had to order (2) ...$118 for a pair right ? NOT !

Totally missed where it said "Magmount SET "  :huh:

Oh well....looks like I have an extra set of Magmounts....KiJiJi here we come  :haha: :haha: :console:

Not bad though....ordered them Monday, got them today in Canada :worship:
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:09:32 AM
How do they look?  Like Anchor mounts embossed w/Korea on the rubber, or not?  Older Anchors were good but quality declined over time.

I can't find any writing on them, however they look very reminiscent of the Anchor ones available with a really thin nut welded on pretty shoddy, etc...
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
But they have a through-bolt to hold them together if the bond fails?



Quote from: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:09:32 AM
How do they look?  Like Anchor mounts embossed w/Korea on the rubber, or not?  Older Anchors were good but quality declined over time.

I can't find any writing on them, however they look very reminiscent of the Anchor ones available with a really thin nut welded on pretty shoddy, etc...
Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 10:06:37 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
But they have a through-bolt to hold them together if the bond fails?
Yes, that's the idea :fingerscrossed:


Title: Re: Engine mounts ?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Might have to try those.  I have a "set"  :D  of new in box Anchor 2250s I bought a few years ago and they look ok but...


Quote from: anlauto on June 12, 2020, 10:06:37 AM
Quote from: Mrbill426 on June 12, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
But they have a through-bolt to hold them together if the bond fails?
Yes, that's the idea :fingerscrossed: